Eight Days in Pattaya: Parties ,Hangover, Hard Truths, Hope and aThreesome

The night started loud—neon, cocktails with flames, free Jägerbombs—and ended with a quiet question we couldn’t shake: when does “fun” stop being fun? We dive into an eight-day sprint through Pattaya’s clubs with a longtime listener, where tastes get picky, bills climb fast, and a VIP plan falls apart because someone chose a lie over a straight answer. It’s a lesson in boundaries and trust—yes, even in places where everything seems transactional. Honesty still counts.

From there, we navigate culture and consent at a tomboy club and the unspoken rules that protect guests and workers. Desire is one thing; respect is another. We try to craft a better plan with help from a savvy friend who knows the scene, only to watch nerves derail the moment. The thread running through it all is simple and stubborn: how you move matters more than where you go.

Then the story shifts. A friend shows up at our door in crisis, high on meth and asking for a key. We talk about what it takes to hold space for someone detoxing—the sleep, the food, the emotional whiplash—and why quitting isn’t the hardest part; staying off is. It’s not a PSA. It’s life here, raw and unfiltered, especially within the ladyboy community that too many people still treat like an afterthought.

We also get real about creative burnout and the temptation to quit the show. We almost said goodbye. Instead, we chose to double down on what makes this project worth it: unscripted honesty, no PR gloss, and a platform where voices from Pattaya—yes, including ladyboys—speak for themselves. Some weeks will soar, some will stumble, but none will pretend.

If this resonates, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review with one thing you want us to dig into next. Your support keeps us here, telling the truth when the lights turn down.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

Hello everyone and welcome back to My Thai Wife podcast. Again, we are in the studio. I'm with beautiful Ellie here. We are doing great. After the two weeks' vacation that we took, I took, and Ellie was forced to take it.

SPEAKER_01: 0:14

Oh no, I actually like a good idea.

SPEAKER_00: 0:19

I think we were kind of synchronized in that way. But both of us felt a bit down, and like it was like, oh great, you're not doing that. That's great. I'm going to do my own stuff until your friend got worried about you and started sending me messages.

SPEAKER_01: 0:33

Oh my god, you're gonna talk about uh no no, it's just it was funny. I mean, it's funny by the way.

SPEAKER_00: 0:39

I got another message from her yesterday, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 0:43

Yeah, I don't know. You okay, Ellie? I'm okay. The thing is, like, uh, because she always messaged me on Instagram, yeah. So it I never checked, I never really checked my Instagram message, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 0:57

I understand, but like she got worried.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00

I know. I have like a more than like I don't know 20 calls from her, Miss Call, and then the last message that I saw is like I gotta go to the police.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08

Okay, did she?

SPEAKER_01: 1:10

No.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11

Because you called. That was like the line you didn't want her to cross. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17

I didn't see before. Lucky that I see friend, otherwise it's gonna be uh picture, missing person from the Pateya news page.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25

Wait, I think we have some problem anyway. Doesn't matter. I had an interesting week. Well, a week and a half. So after the same day I posted the Phil said episode that was actually kind of hard for me to take out, and we will talk about it later or in maybe other episodes, it doesn't have to be today. The same day, a guy that I know from the podcast, not that he was a guest here, he was a listener since the beginning, and I already met him before in in Thailand. He just sent me a message, I'm here, let's meet up.

SPEAKER_01: 2:08

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_00: 2:10

Yes and no. So he came only for one week. Okay, he came heavy and he came hot, if you know what I mean. So, first I'll I'll give you the outcome. The outcome was after eight straight days of me getting fucked up every day because of him, like drunk. I I wouldn't like I wasn't able to talk at the end of the eight days. I just took like two days. I stayed in my room like a zombie, wait for everything to go down. It even affected me mentally, like I became a bit down from that, you know, because yeah, from the too much hangover and alcohol. Yeah, that was heavy, but it was interesting, and also he's not into lady boys, so this means he dragged me all over the other places, and I had to actually because he's not very um, he doesn't know many cool places here, so he wanted me to find some places for him. Okay, so it started, it always started like in a gentleman clubs, if you know what I mean. Yeah, like very chill. And by the way, he's crazy, he's like fucking six, seven times a day. Because I told you he came hot, yeah. He came hot and he kind of like even the drama. So he goes with this one and then send a message to her friend behind her back and try to do a threesome after the e-fuck both of them, and like that's his thing, and that's okay. But we had some good experience, some bad experience. I took him to the one gentleman club I always talk about, the telephone bar. Do you remember the one that won drink to get? He didn't like it, but I expected so because he's like only going for the nine and ten ladies, you know what I mean? And no one's there is nine or ten, let's be honest. So all of them are between five to seven, maybe. I'm sorry, it's like I'm not a bad person, but I try to explain his point of view. So for him, it was like, no, no, I don't want to be here. I say, relax, you don't have to do anything, just buy a drink. I don't want to see her naked. I say, okay, let's go. Because it wasn't a very nice thing to say, you know.

SPEAKER_03: 4:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 4:30

So we stayed there a bit, then we found some other gentleman clubs that he preferred. Uh, by the way, he paid for 95% of the things.

SPEAKER_01: 4:42

Oh, wow, that's very nice of him.

SPEAKER_00: 4:44

It is, but it made me feel a bit uncomfortable. So I tried whenever I could, like, at least pay for the food. Or I invited him to Guillaume's restaurant, the bull. And I tried like as much as I can. And also, finally, we went. He wanted so at the end, he said, I want the nine and tens, only nine and tens, because it was like his last three days. So we went to the most expensive bar in Pataya. Do you know it? I talked about it before, but do you remember?

SPEAKER_01: 5:16

The bar?

SPEAKER_00: 5:17

It's gogo slash gentlemen club.

SPEAKER_01: 5:21

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00: 5:22

I so do you know playgirls?

SPEAKER_01: 5:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 5:25

You know playgirls. Yeah. You know the owner of Playgirls?

SPEAKER_01: 5:28

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00: 5:29

Okay, it doesn't matter. So those guys, they opened another place that's called Playroom.

SPEAKER_03: 5:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 5:37

It's on the same soy, so soy boomerang. Lady Drinks,$3.99.

SPEAKER_01: 5:43

My god.

SPEAKER_00: 5:45

Yeah. Regular drinks, also very expensive. Their specialty is like cocktails. So they have like a huge menu of very. I don't have other words for that, so I will say it's kind of gay word, but flamboyant cocktails. Everything is over the top with cherries and flames everywhere.

SPEAKER_01: 6:08

Like very fancy, like a dead area, like a date place. Like a but you go into the dead, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 6:15

It like this is the style of the cock cocktails, but no, that's a basically a gogo. A gogo. So it's kind in the middle, and they had like the first day we went there, it was actually kind of nice. We already only bought like two drinks and no lady drinks because we were like, okay, we try to understand what's going there. Then the manager came, he's not one of the owners, just a manager. I cannot say his name and where he was from, but he's a very nice guy. And he just came. Hey guys, how are you doing? First time here? Yeah, okay. Here's four Jaggermeister, uh, for a Jagger bomb for you guys. I was like, what the fuck is for two each. So we had them, and then we said, like, we had another, we immediately bought another drink for herself. And when he passed again, passed by us again. I said, Okay, can we buy you a drink? He's saying, No, I have a better idea. Came back with another three Jagger bombs, one for him, two for us. Now, my friend don't like Jagger Bomb, so he was drinking it like whiskey. He don't understand the concept, and I was like, What the fuck are you doing, brother? Just take it down. So he's a nice guy, and he got us like many free drinks, and we only paid for two drinks. So we obviously we felt obligated to go again. The next day we went there again. My friend was already a bit more relaxed.

SPEAKER_03: 7:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:42

Took one girl's play with one girl, play with her a bit, then they have some some shows, you know, a go-go show.

SPEAKER_01: 7:50

Oh, that's a nice though.

SPEAKER_00: 7:51

It is because it's not sexual shows, they're like a choreographed. No, no, choreographed dancing shows. But it's a very small place, but one of the most like the best design place I've seen. Like, very good environment over there. Very good.

SPEAKER_01: 8:09

Something like this. You never invited me. My god.

SPEAKER_00: 8:12

I'm sorry, but my friend was like no ladies.

SPEAKER_01: 8:16

He only wanted like a man night, a guy night, yeah, but okay for eight fucking days.

SPEAKER_00: 8:22

Okay, for eight fucking days. So I I I even tried to bring Scott once, and he said he wasn't.

SPEAKER_01: 8:31

I think he just wants to hang out with you.

SPEAKER_00: 8:33

Maybe we are so I mean, like, also we speak the same language, yeah. So he's not from my country, but he can speak my language, so it was easier, I guess, for him. And also, when we were around other people, he still wanted to speak our language, which was kind of weird because everyone else is speaking English, but that's okay. And it was nice. And we met some guys there that were from Atlanta, I think. Yeah, some black guys from Atlanta, and they had like a birthday party or whatever. At the end of the day, I think his pill was like nine or ten thousand for two hours. Two hours two hours because the lady drinks are very expensive, the drinks are expensive, and then he buys you a drink, you have to buy a drink back, blah blah blah blah blah. So so we've been there three times. Now, another thing that we did now I will not say the name of the place because it's not like it's not the name, the place's fault, but it's some girl's fault. So one day he brought a girl with him and he wanted to go to some very famous Agogo that's known for it being kind of cheap and nice. It's in the Soi Bokau area, it's not in Walking Street or whatever. So we went there with a girl that he already brought in from the out, from out of that place. And we went, we sat in the main area, and then they asked us if you want to go upstairs. So I thought it's like king or whatever. It wasn't, it's just a VIP area, like that. It's kind of nice, actually. Like you're private and yeah, and the prices are the same, but the girls are uglier upstairs. I don't know why. I think like you stuck with them, so anyway. We were sitting with one, two, like his girl and two more girls, and he really liked one of these girls. And he wanted to be with her, but the other girl that he brought said, uh that's not fair for me, you know. So he didn't do anything. The next day he came back with the same girl, but now he already spoke with her and he convinced her, you don't have to do anything, you just need to watch me do stuff. You say, that's not weird for you?

SPEAKER_03: 11:05

No.

SPEAKER_00: 11:06

You will go with some guy that you're fucking, and he will say, Okay, can you sit on the chair while I fight while I fuck other ladies?

SPEAKER_01: 11:13

The thing is, like uh, because the girl she comes from work, right? Or no?

SPEAKER_00: 11:19

She's f she's a freelancer.

SPEAKER_01: 11:21

Yeah, so like uh you get paid to watch someone doing your work, why not?

SPEAKER_00: 11:27

Okay, that's one way to look at it, but you don't feel insulted by that?

SPEAKER_01: 11:32

I mean, like if she has the feeling for him, that is might be a problem.

SPEAKER_00: 11:37

But if you don't feel like I don't have a feeling, I don't I don't think it's she's a nice girl, and by the way, apparently she lives right across the street from me. Like I'm living in one apartment, and she's right like so sometimes when she sees me now, she sends him pictures of me, like smoking on the balcony with my underwear or stuff like that, and she like spying on me. Anyway, it doesn't matter. So we went there the other day, and he was it was his last night. Last, last official night. So he wanted to go out with a bang, you know? One girl, two girls, three girls, the girl from last time, this girl. And he tried to arrange something, but he was very drunk, so he asked me to intervene. He said, go down, choose the two best girls that you can find. Now I know his style. He liked them, let's say not more than 22, white skinned and tiny. This is what he liked. Okay. This is his style. He wanted very small frame. Okay, I went down, had a look, found two girls that kind of matching his description. Went back upstairs, and we had a few more drinks, and then he said, Okay, can you arrange everything for me? So, yeah. So I asked them how much, uh, you know the deal. And we got like settled on the price. I will not say their price, I will just say the room price alone was 1100.

SPEAKER_01: 13:13

For short time?

SPEAKER_00: 13:15

Yeah. But you have to remember, it's him and three more girls.

SPEAKER_01: 13:19

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 13:20

And then they say, wait, you want that girl to come with you to watch? She has to pay extra. That makes sense. Wait, that makes sense. Another 550. That makes sense. And then she said, Oh no, I'm not going there alone. I'm not going to sit there and like, I don't know, do nothing. Mike, you are coming with me.

SPEAKER_03: 13:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 13:40

I say, okay, so what? Are we going both going to sit there? Or she said, it doesn't matter, we can play connect for whatever. I say, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 13:50

Playing Connect for why so much of like banking? This is what?

SPEAKER_00: 13:55

Because I understand she wouldn't feel kind of comfortable. So she wanted me, and we had like a good relationship, me and her, like we became friends, right? And then we spoke to the girls, and she said they say, of course, but another 550. No problem. So the bill was already around 10,000 just for everything. And we start walking to the room, and then the girl that arranged everything from their side, like everyone went in the room and she grabbed my hand. No, no, you can sit here. I say, uh, why? Like, don't think I don't want to watch my friend fucking. But you don't understand that he will. If I'm not going inside, the girl will not go inside, and all the dealers say, Oh, he's drunk. Just lie to him. Say you need to go to the toilet. We make him come in five minutes.

SPEAKER_01: 14:47

I say, That's a nice way of doing your job.

SPEAKER_00: 14:51

Then I spoke in my language to him. I say, cancel everything. He said, Why? I say, ask her. He asked her what's going on. She said, No, uh, you we cannot, you have to pay extra for the girls. He said, but he's not doing anything with them. Then my friend got angry, and he saw that I got angry. And for that small mistake, they blew up a deal that was because he's a big deeper. So I guess it would be like 13 or 14,000 eventually.

SPEAKER_03: 15:21

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 15:22

Just because she wanted to lie for him. You know, because if in the beginning she tell him, no, yeah, if you'll be honest at her first, but then now you want to lie to the client. And they ask me.

SPEAKER_01: 15:35

Ask the friend of the client to like help you on the on like it's actually like help you, like ask you the friend of the client to scam your client.

SPEAKER_00: 15:44

Like, yeah, and you understand that it's not the place fault. This why I don't want to say the place name. It's that girl's fault. And she got angry with me. Like, after that, she we still had like a few drinks, and she she uh forced him to pay for two more drinks, no, three more drinks for the ladies, but that's reasonable. I understand that because they already went up and thought they had a deal. Okay, and all the time she looks at me like that, and I just fuck you.

SPEAKER_01: 16:14

Why don't you look back?

SPEAKER_00: 16:15

If I was that I was just like no, I look back, I say fuck you all the time. And she got angry even more.

SPEAKER_01: 16:21

Then leave, leave the table, go away, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 16:25

Leave her with my friend alone again.

SPEAKER_01: 16:27

No, I mean like her.

SPEAKER_00: 16:28

Like she's like, Oh no, if she are angry, she couldn't leave because in this place, when you go inside, one girl, the first girl that you take, she will stay with you as like a host.

SPEAKER_01: 16:39

Uh okay, I listen.

SPEAKER_00: 16:40

And you she cannot leave you, like we are customers, so it was like uh did you have the chair in the corner?

SPEAKER_01: 16:49

Your corner time, go right now, corner time.

SPEAKER_00: 16:53

Yeah, but it was interesting experience, and at the end, he did like nothing, he just took that one girl home. Um, that was his big night out.

SPEAKER_01: 17:03

Oh, that sucks. Everything almost going perfectly, as what he wished to do. Like, you know, it's like his goal. He I think he already had this plan, you know. Yeah, but then he threw out of the one stupid uh yeah, but I think he also was so drunk, I think he couldn't perform that way. He was drunk at the point, like which is like an easy job for the girl. It is, you know, it is the loose big time.

SPEAKER_00: 17:29

Also, I tried to help him do something else. So I as I told you, he's not into lady boys, but for some weird weird reason, he's really into tomboys. Now, not many tomboys will go with a man.

SPEAKER_01: 17:43

Yeah, there are more Do you know some?

SPEAKER_00: 17:46

I know one. I think we know the same one.

SPEAKER_01: 17:49

Yes, I know this one.

SPEAKER_00: 17:50

Yeah, I think we know the same one, but she's not walking there anymore. Oh so I took him to the tomboy club in uh uh the third road, right outside of Soi Chiapun. I tell you about that before. I took him there and he tried like getting busy with the girls there, and they're like, no, no, we are just giving you drinks.

SPEAKER_01: 18:12

Yeah, you know my time. You have you have something that we do.

SPEAKER_00: 18:15

He did the worst thing, so he saw, you know, most of the people that go there late at night are good-looking girls that want to find a nice tomboy to spend the time with. Oh no, very good-looking girls.

SPEAKER_01: 18:30

Oh no, he talked with a customer.

SPEAKER_00: 18:31

He went there and started like, Hey, how are you doing? Oh god, and she was like, Okay, yeah, you want to drink? Yeah, okay, let's drink together. And then he put the uh his hand on her, and like two random tomboys just, what the fuck are you doing? Stay away. This is our customer.

SPEAKER_01: 18:49

Like, he don't understand the yeah, it's like it's you you don't go out of people's territory and steal their work, bro.

SPEAKER_00: 18:57

Like, and also she's there because she wants to get some pussy. She's not looking if she wanted something else, she wouldn't go there. So step back, you know? Yeah, but it's okay. And then he asked me, Can you arrange something? And I remembered my friend Kiwi, she she's a lady boy, and she says she's really into tomboys, also. Because she actually, I think she likes pussy as much as she likes Dick, but she wants them to look a bit more manly, so tomboy are the perfect option. So she said, I remember that, so I spoke with her. She said, Hell yeah, let's arrange that. Like, let's go there, and she said, I can she look like a lady. She said, I can get tomboys to be with me. Easy. But he got like cold fit at the end. Because she said we can find like a tomboy together, yeah, and one side lady boy, one side man, and we will do our thing. Yeah, but he got cold fit. Yeah, you think it will work? No, huh? I don't know. I thought I I trust in Kiwi.

SPEAKER_01: 20:07

Kiwi is a smart lady, and I know maybe she she knows how to make it work. I think she like has experience to make it work.

SPEAKER_00: 20:16

I don't know. I hope so. But she was like, Yeah, let's do it. Like, she she knew she can make it happen.

SPEAKER_01: 20:24

Yeah, for me, I will be like, nah, if you have the two pussy, then in the room, like yeah, even one pussy is too much for you. Of course.

SPEAKER_00: 20:34

This is what you're saying all the time. Yeah, well, this is just one pussy, tomorrow. That's it.

SPEAKER_01: 20:43

Oh, then it's work. Two men, yeah, one pussy.

SPEAKER_00: 20:47

Yeah, one pussy.

SPEAKER_01: 20:49

Like even one pussy too thick, it's work. Okay, I mean, come on, let the have more in one hole.

SPEAKER_00: 20:55

Okay, of course. I'm not talking about that, but it depends. And also, I I I will not go to that territory. You know what? This is not the level of the podcast that I want. So, and by the way, if we are talking about Kiwi, one of her friends show up at my doorstep the other day. I told you about this before, but uh something I want to talk about. So, this is a serious subject, and I want our audience to understand we are not taking it like lightly. But as we spoke many times, there is a big drug problem in Thailand, in Pataya, especially, and especially with the Lady Boy community. And one of her friends called me a few days ago and just said, Where are you? I say, I'm near my home. What are you doing? I said, I'm eating. You want to come eat with us? Because I was with Pim. And she said, Uh yeah, she came and she just does this to me. Like, give me her hand. I say, What you don't want to eat? Give me your key. Okay, I gave her the key to my room, and I went back to eat with Pim. And then later I came back to the room and she was half asleep, fully closed, on the bed, aircon on, all the windows open. And I'm like, hey, what's going on? And she starts crying immediately. Crying, crying, crying, crying, crying. I let her to calm down and I said, like, what happened? She said, I I want to kill myself. I say, why? She said, I want to die now. I say, okay, you're not going to die now. Now you're just crying and being a pussy about that. So let's tell me what's going on. Come on. She said, I oversmoked and I I feel like crazy. Now, when she says smoking, obviously we talk about ice, which is metamphetamine for people who don't know. So she was very high on ice. She told me she took the same amount that she took in four days, she took in one day.

SPEAKER_01: 23:15

That's rough.

SPEAKER_00: 23:17

Yeah. So she was as high as a kite. She was very high. It took her a lot of time to like calm down. And I then tell her, okay, go take a shower, relax. I got her some food. And normally it takes about two weeks to be able to stop with that. So I told her, okay, listen, you want to stop? She said, Yeah, this is why I came here.

SPEAKER_01: 23:43

Because I already have so she comes like asking your help to help her stop again.

SPEAKER_00: 23:47

Yeah. So she just stays in my room now, and it takes about two weeks. But the thing is, it's not hard to stop. The hard thing is not to start again. You know, everyone can stop.

SPEAKER_03: 24:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 24:03

You know, two weeks, you sleep a lot, you eat a lot, a lot. A lot, by the way. I know another girl, I will not say her name, when she stopped last time, she gained in one week seven kilo. Two weeks seven kilos. Seven kilo. She looked good because before that she was very skinny. So the set the seven kilo actually looked good on her, but that was a bit too much for her. And then she started uh doing it again. Cool, thank you. And we are back. We had a technical issue. Now it's okay. So back to the point. People when they stop doing especially ice, they start eat a lot and they just sleep, like sleep, eat, sleep, eat. So basically, she sleeps 22 hours a day, wake up, eat, shit, shower, and go sleep again.

SPEAKER_01: 25:04

Like, I feel like it's just like uh all her body needs from like when she's on ice, she probably doesn't have much of that sleep, sleep and eat.

SPEAKER_00: 25:12

Yeah, because as I told you, many people are losing weight when they're smoking ice, most of them, like significant, a lot of weight, and it's look very bad, especially by the way, on Lady Boys, it's it's look weird because you know, then you can see all the muscles, and this is actually the thing they try to avoid, right?

SPEAKER_01: 25:32

They want to look a bit more feminine in that area, so like the way it's to be skinnier, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 25:38

But sometimes too skinny is not good. But it's not the first time that I'm hosting someone that wants to stop. Last time I got actually one of my friends was taking care of her. So it's a lady boy that was taking care of another lady boy, and she had to go to Bangkok for a few days, and she just called me. Hey, can you take her in a few days? You know the deal. Don't let her do crazy stuff. Say, yeah, yeah, yeah. She can come over. So uh it's good, but it's kind of affecting me mentally also, because when you stay with people that are trying, yeah, that's it's like a thousand negative uh wipe, yeah, a bit, and everything like they are very sensitive, and every word can make them cry or laugh or whatever.

SPEAKER_01: 26:35

I believe I understand you. Some like when uh my friend has a big heartbroken, oh same thing. Like I try to be positive for her, but then at the end I also doubt myself, feel down, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 26:48

So I yeah, I felt that. So think about it. The first week I had like the party, party, party, and then a crash, and then she showed up, right? And it's like continuum of this how would I say that? Heavy energy, you know, it's very heavy, and also we I felt I I will go back to the episode that I did last time. As I explained to the listeners, and you probably heard the episode, I guess. Yeah, so lately in general, I'm feeling a bit down, and I felt a bit off, and I think the content that we produced wasn't as good as I hoped. And the people response wasn't good as I hoped. And everything is sing I feel it so heavy right now. And it sounds like I'm complaining.

SPEAKER_01: 27:50

I am a bit a bit come on, unless everyone have the right to complain somehow.

SPEAKER_00: 27:56

Yeah, but I I I still enjoy my life here, right? Like I was speaking with my aunt yesterday. Uh yesterday it was some holiday back home, so I I spoke with her, and like I told her, listen, like I don't know if things work out the way I want them to.

SPEAKER_01: 28:15

Just kind of feel doubted, then now you feel lost.

SPEAKER_00: 28:18

Yeah, I spoke with you also.

SPEAKER_01: 28:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 28:21

And she said, Yeah, it's okay, just change your roots. I say, Yeah, but I don't want to. I like what I'm doing. I am.

SPEAKER_01: 28:30

I know, but then it's like confusing in your head.

SPEAKER_04: 28:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 28:33

Or maybe you just like it the way the way it just the way we do, you just like it so much, and you expect a lot.

SPEAKER_00: 28:39

So when you die, you feel much more on the expecting that it's not like yeah, and I'm not by the way, I'm not even talking about the money that we are not making out of it.

SPEAKER_01: 28:48

I mean, the quality, yeah, the quality and the feeling, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 28:50

Yeah, and like I thought she's going to convince me to come back, and she said, hell no, don't come back. There is nothing like you're happy there, stay there. Find other ways to provide for yourself and like the best aunts, the what the best aunt, perfect. She is, yeah, she's one of the best aunts. Well, she's the best aunt I have, and like what I find it a bit hard for me to get up on my feet now. So I ask many advice from many different people. For example, for my best friend in Thailand, I told you about her. She lived across the street from me, but in another side, and like she was also down, and she said, like, yeah, something in the air is making us down. Like, it's the the the whole situation now in Pataya. Everyone can feel it. Even the the foreigners feel the low energy. They say, Okay, so what do you do to get out of it? Say, I force myself to think about something else. Can you do that?

SPEAKER_01: 29:59

Me? Nah.

SPEAKER_00: 30:01

You also get stuck in your own thoughts.

SPEAKER_01: 30:03

Um, yeah, when I yeah, when I think about um yeah, you know I'm in the vegetable state, you know, like don't want to do anything and like don't want to think about anything because it's like it's so much thing in the head, and then they cannot get rid of it.

SPEAKER_00: 30:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 30:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 30:19

But every time I meet you, well, you know what? That's not fair what I'm going to say, because I'm doing the same. Like sometimes we kind of fake it with other people.

SPEAKER_01: 30:28

Because like, because like you're not, you know, literally like like you and me, I feel like we are similar. When we meet a new friend or like other people, you don't want to push, like, don't want to put our problem to them.

SPEAKER_04: 30:38

No.

SPEAKER_01: 30:39

Yeah, so we just act happy all the time. So that's why uh sometimes when I say like I'm feeling, they're like, oh, how down can you be? Because I never see you sad or like grumpy or anything. I just always see you like always supported, positive. Like, no, I just fake it until I make it.

SPEAKER_00: 30:55

I don't want to do that anymore. I was talking about this the last time. Like, I cannot fake it anymore. And um, it's I'm again, I want we have this conversation live, not live, but on a podcast. I actually was thinking about terminating this whole thing.

SPEAKER_01: 31:16

And uh, you send a message, and I don't know how to respond.

SPEAKER_00: 31:19

No, it's okay, but like I know it's like kind of our baby now, and everyone is looking at it from a different angle. I know that for me it's like something I'm very proud of, and I think it's one of the best thing things I ever did in my life, not only because of the content that we provide we provide, also because of the the meaning behind it. Okay, we want people to be happy here, we want people to get the real information and not oh I know this bar owner, this bar is so great. No, mostly we say this bar sucks. No PR.

SPEAKER_01: 32:07

Come to Pateya, happy beach, you know, even amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 32:11

Even when we are talking, for example, about Guillaume's restaurant, yeah, right? It is fucking good restaurant, not because he's my friend.

SPEAKER_01: 32:18

It's yeah, because like I have that uh sort of stuck in my head for like fucking three days, and then I have to like, okay, what's the name of the that restaurant again? I need to you know do they sell on delivery, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 32:31

And like we do give real recommendations, and I think we do give the people the opportunity to find unfiltered, unfiltered information, yeah, and unfiltered opinions. And I do think also we give a very good perspective of the Ladybug community, which some people look at them as an outsider community, which is not right. It's kind of the main, not the main, but it's a big thing here, and we give like we shine light on them, yeah, which no one does.

SPEAKER_01: 33:05

We give them place to talk, like wherever and whenever they want. Yeah, I have uh some uh of the friend that uh asked me, like, why you postcast or like have a mostly lady boy? Why don't you bring some girl, like a beautiful girl, something like that? I just like and and like why don't you follow more like a content and stuff like that? Like it's just not our thing. We just uh one the wife asks like a friend, we talk together and share the experience and like like a friend talking to each other.

SPEAKER_00: 33:32

Yeah, you know, same. Even before we started recording today, me and you were just sitting here talking for like 20 minutes and then they set up the whole thing, like and it's natural, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 33:43

Yeah, I think it's better. I like like this more, not just like, oh, I have to do the script, like okay, we're gonna talk about this, talk about that. Like, no, it's just from the feeling better.

SPEAKER_00: 33:52

Fuck script. I tried to do you know, I tried to do scripts before. No, I didn't know I did I tried and it was mundane, it was so boring and dry.

SPEAKER_01: 34:01

Yeah, you know, I think it's gonna be very accurate. First off, I have shit brain, bro. Like I I can't I can't remember, I don't even remember what I eat yesterday. So don't ask me to have a script and then like tell me, like, okay, we're gonna talk about this, but oh I can't.

SPEAKER_00: 34:16

Fuck what you eat yesterday. What are we eating today? That's the best question.

SPEAKER_01: 34:19

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 34:21

But we are. Uh oh, you're going straight to sleep.

SPEAKER_01: 34:26

I think I might. Oh, like no, like you guys don't know. I still not sleep. No worry, I'm not on any high optimal med, okay?

SPEAKER_00: 34:34

I'm just all drugs.

SPEAKER_01: 34:36

Yeah, all drugs. I'm just like this. Sometimes I just not sleep for like like 14 hours or something like that. And then just sleep at one time.

SPEAKER_00: 34:45

I know. I used to get, I don't know if you know that. We will get to the other topic back soon, but I don't know if you know that. But actually, some you can get high from not sleeping.

SPEAKER_01: 34:56

Yeah, that's why I before like we start recording. I tell you, like, I will be look like I'm kind of half drunk because it always happened to me. Like when I'm not asleep over 24 hours, I'm kind of like, look like I'm drunk. I talk a lot.

SPEAKER_00: 35:11

So the thing is that sometimes I do it on purpose. If I want to have like a crazy night or whatever, I make sure I not sleep like 36 hours or something, and then I start drinking and going out, and then everything is like I got crazy, drunk fast, and I don't know where the all the energy comes from. Like uh but it's fun, it's fun, it's a different kind of high. You know, you know, I'm not doing any drugs, so yeah, I have nothing left. So just abusing my body to get some high out of depressed sleep.

SPEAKER_01: 35:45

I hate like before before drunk though. Like I do that many times for my friend, you know, because like she unplanned. So she's like even she planned, but the thing is when it happens the next day, I cannot sleep. I just like, oh, what I gonna do? What I'm gonna do, what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_00: 36:02

I know exactly what you mean. I think we are so similar, you know. Even since I was a baby, and let's say there was some field trip from school, or what I can sleep. Whatever even if my friend has a birthday, I cannot sleep. Anything that I know, it's like taking me out of there. So it's fucked up. I know exactly how you feel.

SPEAKER_01: 36:23

Like uh, like that is also the reason that's why I'm like I'm single. I have free like so much free time in the world at the moment, but I don't go much date. It's just because when I set up the date, I cannot sleep. And then it's like like close to the time that I have to go to the restaurant.

SPEAKER_00: 36:41

So we need to do surprise dates for you. Like, Ellie, go out, there is a guy outside.

SPEAKER_01: 36:46

Okay, like knock on my door. Ellie, I think I I think you are for a date.

SPEAKER_00: 36:50

Yeah, you don't know me. Mike recommended me. He said you are kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 36:56

It can't, it might work. We can try that. I think it canceled.

SPEAKER_00: 37:00

Then you don't need, you know? Then you just okay. Oh, believe me, I cancel the yeah, but then you will see with your rotten potato couch couch potato mode.

SPEAKER_01: 37:12

Now I'm I'll be the rotten potato on the bed at least. Okay. Upgrade.

SPEAKER_00: 37:16

Okay, that is an upgrade.

SPEAKER_01: 37:17

Yeah, it's it because the cow is small, so okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 37:21

I'm happy for that. At least you change the state from one to another.

SPEAKER_03: 37:27

Okay, let's back to that.

SPEAKER_00: 37:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back to the thing I said before. So let's be honest about what do you think? We should terminate this podcast or not?

SPEAKER_01: 37:36

Why? The thing is, like, if you if you say that the thing that you say to me, like you might drop it out.

SPEAKER_00: 37:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 37:42

I in the message. The the exact message was And you you see, you see, I respond because um I just don't know how to touch.

SPEAKER_00: 37:51

Yeah, but you respond that you also thought about it.

SPEAKER_01: 37:54

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 37:56

I I will even read it to you, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 37:58

No, I say I did not I did not know how to tell how to tell the people I think before to mention to dropping it too. No, this is laptop.

SPEAKER_00: 38:14

You want to drop my laptop?

SPEAKER_01: 38:16

No, but read the message. This is like half-sleep messaging.

SPEAKER_00: 38:23

It's okay, but I I'm happy that you say no because I don't want to end it. But I do think that some we cannot give you you guys like consistent quality of content because we are really relayed relied on the guests that we have, and right now it's a bit hard to find good guests in Pataya because there are not many people here. And I do hope things will change in the future. I do have three interesting guests for the upcoming weeks.

SPEAKER_01: 38:59

Let me try analyze my own message.

SPEAKER_00: 39:01

Okay, okay. So you have to read it for the audience.

SPEAKER_01: 39:03

I I have uh Ellie language, okay, like early English language. Yeah, but you have to read it.

SPEAKER_00: 39:09

Wait, wait, wait. You know what? We can play. Wait, I will read my message and then you can reply. Okay, okay. So it was like uh from like I think dropping. No, no. Uh yeah, in middle, because I was trying to bring someone for today for about five hours. I think dropping this whole thing soon. Too hard for me doing it alone.

SPEAKER_01: 39:33

And I asked, I understand. Would you like me to return the laptop to you today?

SPEAKER_00: 39:38

I say, wow, you are very supportive. It's the end of the month, by the way.

SPEAKER_01: 39:43

And then I say uh I don't good at telling people what to do or give the suggestion. I think before to mention to drop it. No, I think I mean I I dre I think before it's not about the logic. I think I think this one is uh oh no, you're wrong. You're wrong. The fucking oh sorry. Oh, it's okay anyway. The fucking yeah, you guys know. Okay. So the that it's fixed my message. So actually, I was uh about to I want want to say like uh I think before you mention to drop it, you probably have clear thoughts about it, not just talk thinking. Like not just talk before thinking.

SPEAKER_00: 40:30

Yeah, I understood that part.

SPEAKER_01: 40:32

That's what I think about you. That's what I that's what I I I see you, you know. Like I feel like when like because you you kind of you kind of like how to say sarcastic, like, oh wow, you're so supportive.

SPEAKER_00: 40:44

So it's just like I it wasn't mean this it was like cynical, it wasn't disgusting. I wasn't trying to be disgusting, but like, wow, you're so supportive.

SPEAKER_01: 40:54

No, but that's you know what I make it clear, but the the phone fits my word. Because like that's why I say like I'm not good at like uh tell people what to do. And then it's like I feeling for me, like as I see you, right? I feel like you is a person who like you already think about it through before you saying it. You're not you're not taking as just saying it from the feeling, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 41:17

You are my partner, right? So when I talk with you, it's to find like a shell idea.

SPEAKER_01: 41:26

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 41:26

You know, I I I'm being honest here.

SPEAKER_01: 41:29

That day I was uh same same today.

SPEAKER_00: 41:32

That's okay. I'm not angry. You saw I wasn't angry. The whole conversation didn't got me angry.

SPEAKER_01: 41:37

Oh, lady, I thought you like a little bit like, oh, you're a bitch.

SPEAKER_00: 41:40

No, even you know what?

SPEAKER_01: 41:42

The problem is the thing is when I read about it, like, oh yeah, I'm a little bit bitch.

SPEAKER_00: 41:47

The the thing is, messages don't have sound for you. Wow, wow, you are very supportive. Sound like wow, like angry. Wow, you know, and I'm like, wow, you're so supportive. That's what is in my head, more fun, like wow, that's very supportive. Like, that's not what this is not what I expected. You see, I'm the one punching the mic, not you.

SPEAKER_01: 42:13

So I do not say I thinking to drop it, I say I think before you uh mentioned to drop it, you okay, I think you already thought it to so now I know what you wanted to write, which is not enough because you sent another message.

SPEAKER_00: 42:29

So fuck you, Ellie. Anyway, so we are not dropping it. I'm not saying we are, and I do have some guests coming for the next episodes. I actually had someone I told you he was cancelled for yesterday. Yeah, he's an interesting guy. I think you will like him. Uh, he's doing some interesting stuff here. And I really hope I not hope, I know he will be here next week. So, as I said before, we have some guests upcoming. It's going to be interesting, it's going to be fun. Just uh please, guys, understand that we cannot provide the same quality each time. We are depending on the guests.

SPEAKER_01: 43:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 43:12

Yeah. When it's one-on-one, we can do it very good.

SPEAKER_01: 43:16

No, we can do it every day. But then you guys are gonna have to listen and talk shit.

SPEAKER_00: 43:20

It's not just that. I think the guys actually want to see different perspectives from us. This is why I bring sometimes Scott or Michelle. By the way, Michelle was supposed to come as a surprise guest today, but he couldn't, you know why. I told you before. Yeah, so this is what's going on, right? So we will be here next week. We are keep on doing that as much as I can. And we got like the whole thing that I did last week, uh, two weeks ago, about hey guys, please help us. We got one more supporter, so good. I will not say his name because I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 43:59

Please support the man.

SPEAKER_00: 44:01

Us us, why men?

SPEAKER_01: 44:03

Us okay. Us. Please support us.

SPEAKER_00: 44:06

So again, thank you for uh Fox 3 Studio for having us. Yes in Teppasit Road. Uh, we are leaving always under like I leave a link always under like the videos or the podcast, wherever you can find their link. Uh share our contact content, please like it, subscribe it, and if you will, please go to Pratrian. Do remember it helps us a lot. Yes, thank you, Ellie. I love you. It was a great episode. So we will see you actually.

SPEAKER_01: 44:43

Now we have no misunderstanding.

SPEAKER_00: 44:45

Yeah, no, no misunderstanding. I wasn't angry, okay. Okay, and and and and we are doing actually, we you will see us in the next episode next week with the same clothes because we are doing back to back. Yeah, so see you soon, guys. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_01: 45:03

Thank you. Bye bye, bye bye.