My Thai Wife
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My Thai Wife
John ‘The Legend’ & Gorgeous Ellie Expose the Naughty Truth About Pattaya Nightlife
Step into Pattaya’s after-dark world with John “The Legend” — a 60-year-old expat whose name echoes across the city’s bars, bedrooms, and beyond. Known for his outrageous stamina with both ladies and ladyboys, John has built a reputation that every newcomer secretly wants to live up to.
But this isn’t just wild sex stories (though there are plenty). We break down the real cost of living in Pattaya: from John’s 113,000-baht condo, to dirt-cheap village houses, to the shocking electricity bills that can triple your expenses overnight.
We also tackle Thailand’s tightening visa rules — including the brutal 800,000-baht requirement — and why many retirees are eyeing Vietnam as their next escape.
And of course, no trip to Pattaya is complete without a deep dive into the bar scene:
💋 The true economics of lady drinks
🎲 Bar games that break the ice (and your wallet)
🍻 How to stretch your baht while still living like a king
This episode is packed with laughs, raw confessions, and insider hacks you won’t hear anywhere else. If you’ve ever wondered what really keeps men coming back to Pattaya year after year — this is the uncensored truth.
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Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. I'm Mike and Ellie and we have a guy that you heard his voice. You never seen him, but we have John the legend here. Hello, john, hello, good to do with Michelle. Have you seen that?
Speaker 3:Oh, I want that episode.
Speaker 2:I didn't know you were going to do a drunk episode.
Speaker 1:We drank, so it was at least one liter of vodka, okay, and at the end of the episodeott was like sleeping, drunk, puking on in the toilet. Oh, like he was laying down like puking and me and michelle, I saw the three musketeers yeah, the three musketeers, and then and then we just covered him with the towel, give him fan and then me and michelle just went out.
Speaker 1:He stayed in michelle room, really, yeah, but it was a great episode. Yeah, this time not like last time, which last time me and john we I don't know if you heard that episode, but we did a very serious episode. We will not get into that, but, guys, if you want to hear that episode it's called mini's legacy, so we would love you to give it a listen. It's very emotional, very raw and I think it's one of the best, uh, the best recording I ever had. It was very good. We did it with pimp last time.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, so this time yeah, you should, but this time me and john said okay, no, we want to have fun, we don't want to be as emotional and crying. Everyone was crying last episode, so this one will be a bit different okay, yeah so first, john, how, how are you doing? We are meeting each other um oh good, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, oh good we, you know we had john, will confirm that so few. I think it was two weeks ago. We met john and he just it was me, scott, right, yeah, and michelle, and we met john and john was like, yeah, scott's birthday, yeah, it was on scott's birthday, scott's birthday when he just come back it's the same day he come back from england after three weeks.
Speaker 1:So he was like ready to go, you know, and we had like a bar call and we ended up in Flex, first Boho, then Flex seven or eight in the morning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was daylight and the sun was up.
Speaker 1:So we were very drunk, but it was very good. Did you enjoy Flex?
Speaker 3:Because it's very different from what we normally go for, yeah, first time, first time in boho, first time in flex which one was like better for you flex, flex, because a little bit, a little bit, and the music you know, yeah, good.
Speaker 1:So boho, we should go. We spoke about it before. It's a very small club and they play mostly EDM.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 1:It is good they have a few good DJs over there. We know two of them. One of them will probably be on our podcast sometime this month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the problem is, when you can't go, you can't call me.
Speaker 1:Because we never know when we go. I'm telling you the truth, it's starting out like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I tell you, let's go. So, for example, scott really angry me about that, because sometimes we say I just call him like six in the evening, scott, I'm a bit hungry, you want to grab some food? He say yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go get some food. And we had, we just want to eat something. And we say no drinking today. And we agree no drinking today.
Speaker 2:Then we found ourselves eight in the morning in that situation like okay, let's just grab a dinner, no drinking, but then end up like until the morning I.
Speaker 3:I find unplanned nights are the best nights, I agree, like the other night when I met you in 69. Last time we went out, you know, two nights ago, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd been out to Jong Tian, to a bar, come back three times.
Speaker 1:But you came already I went to Cindy's.
Speaker 3:No, he could, cindy. No, peachy Peachy Lee. You've been to Peachy Lee, peachy KRU or KRU. My friend, his girlfriend, went home. I said, oh, I'll go around to Whiskey Lounge, walking past 69, one of the girls said said, oh, your friends are in here. I walk in Mike Scott and Michelle oh.
Speaker 1:The whole gang.
Speaker 3:And that was it Until Crazy night. Five, I think, five in the morning, oh my god.
Speaker 1:So we went to To Pitchy again. He'd just been to Pitchy, but we went there again. And after that we went to Cindy's Secret. Cindy's Secret is a new kind of a new bar ladyboy bar in Pattaya. They have oh, I don't know for how many years they have another bar in Bangkok, very famous one.
Speaker 2:What's the name?
Speaker 1:Cindy's Secret. The reason it's called Cindy's Secret? Because in Bangkok it's in a small alley. No one knows where is that? You know, it's like a secret, and here also they did the same. So they choose a very small alley in order to keep the main theme no one will go there Not our main soy bokeh.
Speaker 3:It's just off, yeah, but it's an alley that no one go there.
Speaker 2:I see.
Speaker 3:Where the rock? Is it a rock station? Yeah, a rock factory, Rock factory. On the corner you turn and do you know where?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's exactly in front of the Buddha statue the elephant, not Buddha the elephant statue that everyone stop and pray in Soi Bokau, near Soi Hani. So you just turn right and it's there.
Speaker 2:I like the idea of like a secret bar, hiding bar.
Speaker 1:It's actually really good because, especially with the ladyboy community, some guys are kind of shy about that. So, oh, I will not go in the main main areas. So then they go to, yeah you know, to the secret alleys, to the secret places, but it's really nice and, like the bar close the tree, they just shut the doors, close the curtains, turn off the music closet 3 pm 3 am, but we stayed until 5 because they know, okay, we have like, yeah, but it's very nice.
Speaker 1:Of course, we had a few drinks, a lot of pool, we played a lot of pool. Oh, they have pool too yes, one of the best pool tables actually here, like usually the ladyboy bars. I don't know why they have shit pool tables, like delirious, for example, like they are not good pool tables. They are very old and like bumpy, you know, and in there and 69 they have like new tables, very good ones, yeah okay but we've been hustled, but by that young lady boy at the end.
Speaker 1:Do you remember that? Yeah, so we played a lot of pool and, yeah, I was playing like shit at the beginning, at the beginning, and then I got, like you know, I got some practice, I got ready, I got hot, and then I I beat everyone and then someone just said, oh, you can play with her, she's new, she never played before I always fall for that trick and she just smashed all of us.
Speaker 2:No one beat her I always fall for that trick and I've had like 10 drink of the one girl in my bill.
Speaker 3:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like early in this month, I went to Rayong. Yeah, I ran some errands for my friend and then decided to stay like a couple of days and I go out with the guy.
Speaker 1:Ban Chang. No, it's Rayong Very close to like the main city, oh okay, but it's very in so near the field.
Speaker 2:Oh, the beach is so amazing. Yeah, and then I like a young, yeah, and then, uh, we go out to the, to the bar, and then it's just like he just keep like come play pool with me, with me, and then it's just like I can play, but sometimes I just lazy, you know, so it's just like okay you need the right mood for that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I asked like okay, uh, which lady that I can play pool with him and I buy the drink? And then it's like one rich high girl and she's like uh, can I play too? But I'm not good, maybe he'll get bored and say like yeah, no, worry about it to play, I will buy you the drink, you know and she just and he just like he's a kid, like okay, one more game, one more game, one more game.
Speaker 1:You know, this is something that Scott said the other time. So the first time he came to Thailand he came with his friend and he's a decent pool player, like back home in England. He played, I guess twice or three times every month Like he had the experience. He play I guess twice or three times every month Like he have the experience. And he come here all hot, thinking he's like, and his friend tell him, like, after he lost two times he say, listen, let's say you play five hours in one month. All these girls play five hours every day, every day, every day. There is no way you are better than them. They know all the tricks and they know their own table, because every table is a bit different. One of them are fast, some are slow, some are more bumpy, you know. So it's very depends. And when you play in that same table every day for a few months, you know every another table yeah, but it's.
Speaker 1:It was funny after that, like Michel was still hot, he wanted to go flex or something, but we all said no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:That's enough for us.
Speaker 1:So we just went home, but it was a good night. Before I told you and the listeners haven't heard that we call John the legend. Now there is a reason behind it. It he might want me to cut it after, so I don't know, it will go to the to the main episode. So first of all, I will ask you that okay, john is like in his, let's say, late 40s, very late 40s, okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, very, very late, 60.
Speaker 1:Yeah he's 60 years old, oh okay. And he fucks like a rabbit. Yeah, you should have drink at that time. All the ladies know if they go with John and I'm saying ladies and ladyboys, if they go with John, they will not be able to walk the next day.
Speaker 2:You have to buy the wheelchair.
Speaker 1:Even last time I was speaking with our I will not say her name, because last time she was angry at me but our, let's say more aggressive friend from 69, the one that beat us all the time.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know, and who you're talking about yes, and she said like she never went with john. But they are good friends. And I asked her like jokely, like why you haven't been with him, like what is the reason? She said oh, I heard the stories like and everyone say john is too big, john is too strong, john is taking too long that's how he's directing yeah how do you think about this comment?
Speaker 3:oh, look, here you've got to get your money's worth.
Speaker 1:You for sure, get your money's worth you've got to a thing that is a bit serious. Many of the guys here and I think it's not only the young, the older guys, I think it starts like since even 30 they come here and they think, okay, I have to perform better. So they start to take camagra and everything and then their body use, get used to that and they cannot perform without it. And as far as I know, you take nothing, no, nothing.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so bad.
Speaker 1:Nothing. No, no, it's interesting because many of the guys have the performance issue. It's something that you are not aware, but if we had ladyboys here, they will say yeah, yeah, we know. And then, like it's getting to your mind sometime and you think, oh, can I perform? Maybe I had too much drink or maybe I had too much food. You like really thinking about it. You know, being ladies a bit easier in that way, you just have to get wet and okay. But for us, you know, we need to get the blood flowing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So this is why we call him the legend and also you. He introduced me for to some of his friends, which are really nice. I will not say they say their name because I don't know if they won't but one of your friends is. Everyone call him your son and we like this guy.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen him for a while Is he, okay, he's back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back already.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, okay, I've been out, not for two weeks, oh, okay, but I said when we was in KRU the other night I took the photo and sent it to him. Oh, okay and yeah, but I know when he went back to the uk he stopped drinking, even though he wasn't a big, big drinker, he just I never seen him. And then when he come back, two weeks we went out, uh, he drink water, he just wanted a layoff that that's you know.
Speaker 1:I think sometimes people get carried away with the drinking here, like I know I do sometimes, yeah, because back home I'm not a big drinker, not at all like maybe once a month. And then, yeah, I come here and then, oh, you go out with friends, you have a few drinks the next day, again and again, and again, and it's like a cycle, yeah, that you find yourself not alcoholic but really like, oh, I'm drinking every day yeah, it's not about the money again no, no, same.
Speaker 2:Same to me, like at right now, because I already I did not work as a bar manager, I did not drink at all, but then when I drink, same thing happened. That's why I try to avoid to drink or going out for drinking, because, like, when I start to drink, I cannot stop, I just end up.
Speaker 3:They have to be breakout, that's it, I stop fingers where I think, when you work in a bar as well, you're getting customers. Ah, drink you, drink you mean it's about a girl as a or even a manager you know, sometimes people want to buy my mom they want to buy the cashier, like I do when I go to Delores. I always buy. Lana and everyone I always get them a drink because I've known them a long time, so I get them a drink.
Speaker 1:I know that and this is actually an interesting point normally and this is something that actually we spoke about, but there is kind of a problem when you get to know so many people in the bars that you end up spending much more money.
Speaker 3:So, for example, that's why many times girls in the bar come up oh John, you buy me a drink?
Speaker 2:No, Not tonight. They don't know people. Yeah, and you don't want to insult them, but you cannot buy everyone you know a drink. No, not tonight, not tonight.
Speaker 1:No, no people, yeah, and you don't want to insult them, but you cannot buy everyone you know a drink. No, you can't.
Speaker 3:So, for example, if you think a lady drink is like? Depending on like walking street or even in Soi Bacau, it's minimum of 150 baht.
Speaker 1:130 is the minimum but yeah, or minimum 130. If we're talking delirious, delirious is 130, for example, no that's 150 now. Now 150,. They raise the price.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they get 70 baht per drink now, I think.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's maybe because of the low season.
Speaker 3:Okay, I can understand that low season, yeah, but you go around the bars now and some are Empty, yes, and you feel sorry. You do feel sorry For the girls, you do.
Speaker 1:You know I am Many times Like I've seen, so now my Automatically go to Bar is 69. You know that, yeah, yeah. And like I know Everyone there and some of the girls Like if I come late they tell me listen, like that's my first drink, like 1 am, 2 am the first drink, so basically, they sit there.
Speaker 2:They don't have customers, but the last week was really good.
Speaker 1:I don't know what's going on. I think, like September brought a lot of new tourists here because the bar was packed Even that night. 69 bar was. Even that night 69 bar was yeah, no, you've been to peachy before the same night, sorry. Yes, yeah, and 69 was also packed everywhere. Now is getting more lively again. So, yeah, I think there is like a bunch of new tourists that came. You don't go out much, so you don't see, I don't go out at all.
Speaker 2:That's the thing yeah, I know, I don't even go out of my, of my room okay, so you need to go out more.
Speaker 1:We need to take you out forceful, forcefully take you out oh, you build you such a bullshit, you know, she said that, stop it, stop it. And then she messaged me hey guys, you go out today, you go out and she always message me the neck the day after.
Speaker 2:I'm smashed that I out. That's why, because I that day I always the girl from the gym.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, and never go now we should.
Speaker 1:We should have a big night out today. But we spoke, for example, with michelle and michelle really like to go to the walking street, the whole flex and boho, yeah, and we said it's okay, but we cannot do that every time we go out. No, it's too heavy. You know, once a week, on friday, when it's packed and it's like okay, but doing that three times a week it's cost a lot of money. It's take a lot of toll of your body also, like you are getting the next day you cannot do anything, just sit in your home like oh, sometimes it takes me two days to sober up yeah, yeah, I get that, I really get that.
Speaker 1:And then like this way I prefer once a week like a big night out and then during friday or saturday, yeah, yeah. So walking street is really active on Friday. This is like the most active day. So we try to make it Friday Usually. Saturday sometimes is not that that good of a night, but the thing I wanted to say before about the spending. So we decided as a group of friends that we stopped by drink to each other. It's, there is no point behind it. Like I go with out, for example, yeah, I buy you drink, then you buy me drink, and then it's like a real cycle of.
Speaker 3:I've been like back in the uk, why not go out with friends, like. But if say like, if there were, say like six of us or whatever, we go in pairs. Yeah, so us two, I buy one, them two, you know they buy their own. Yeah, I get that, so you're in a round with one person. Yeah, but Because you know at the end of the night if you go say like six people, oh, it's my round, what you, oh, I don't know. Yeah, and he hasn't bought around it. Yeah, or night, or something.
Speaker 1:You know, it's making some uncomfortable situations. And also, like the other day, me and it was michelle, I think we went to a bar. We each had one drink because we wanted to move to another bar, but we knew a lot of the ladyboys over there and each bill was about 700 for one drink that we had. Because you feel uncomfortable, you know. Oh, I know her and I promised her last time and this is a nice girl, oh, this is the new girl they want to introduce to us, you know, and we end up like paying 700 for one drink, basically, yeah, yeah, same thing to me, like right now if someone asks me to uh to join them, to soy sick.
Speaker 1:It's just like nah because you know everyone over there.
Speaker 2:I don't know everyone, but sometimes like if I've been there before and I have been by the good drink before, I just awkwardly do not buy it again, and somehow the girl inside city will have good's. Just awkward to not buy it again. And somehow the girl in Soy 6 have good memory of their customer Of course All the girls have good memory of their customers.
Speaker 3:Do you like Soy 6? I've not really been out. I've been out twice, soy 6. And you're living here for a long time. It wasn't for me you know, okay, why?
Speaker 1:That's interesting? Because I have the same, the same feeling about soy sticks.
Speaker 3:I don't know it was just just no too much. Yeah, they're too grabby, I mean my, my visa agents down soy six.
Speaker 1:Okay, one stop and uh if I have to, oh, it's the most famous visa place in Badr yeah, most famous.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mark and Pom do a brilliant job. Okay, yeah, you can give them a shout out, no problem. Yeah, they do a brilliant job. And yeah, sometimes I have to go well, drop my passport down there for my 90-day report. I go down there before 12 o'clock. Why don't you go do it yourself? It's so easy. I like to do it, they do it.
Speaker 1:You just go give a high five and you know.
Speaker 3:Hand over me passport and they do it, I go well, Friday.
Speaker 1:He's on a retirement visa, obviously, but he said something interesting to me the other day he's thinking about living thailand.
Speaker 3:You spoke with me about that, um if, if things start changing what they're saying, what's gonna happen? I, I would go and live in vietnam. My team, yeah, you know, do you know?
Speaker 1:what he's talking about.
Speaker 3:It's just getting harder and harder, you know.
Speaker 2:What is that about?
Speaker 3:to get shared it's just about having the 800,000 baht in your bank account for four months. Oh, like not using money. There's no way I'm going to put 18,000 odd pound in a bank account. I can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't even count that hard?
Speaker 3:Why?
Speaker 1:yeah, you can't even know that because this is the requirement for the retirement visa right now.
Speaker 3:Oh so you have to prove four months before three months. Yeah, there's a lot of money to have in a bank that money that you cannot touch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree, I have some friend that like uh, not even put money in the bank at all too yeah, but this is like scams.
Speaker 1:You know not scams, but this is like a go around, you know yeah, I know that they come up but for him he did it yeah yeah, probably, it's probably not, you know but it sucks because no point to put money in like that much in the bank.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you need spend every day thailand all like I I saw the the news and they say they lose a lot of, like tourists here and, like I think I saw like nine or ten percent down from last year, yeah, which is a lot, yeah. And the people that actually live here on retirement visa, on the tv visa or whatever, why to make, why you try to make their life so much harder they are living here, they are spending a lot of money anyway. The Thai government needs to keep those guys.
Speaker 2:The truth is that foreigners can do much of the business in Thailand anyway, even though it's so easy to open a business here.
Speaker 1:It's not that easy.
Speaker 2:Especially in this age. Most people just work online, you know. And they bring the money in and they spend it anyway.
Speaker 3:They spend a lot of money here. I mean it's not as if two-week millionaire, you know no of course not.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that. Yeah, no, no, I know the two-weeks millionaire. You know that term. No, so two-weeksaires are the guys that come here, especially on the first or second time and they like coming with a lot of money. But there are only two weeks here and they're spending huge amounts of money that back home they will never spend as much. You know like we are talking 200,000 for two months, for two weeks.
Speaker 3:Sorry, yeah, you know 200,000, but it's a lot of money, or even more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or even more. Yeah or even more. So, yeah, the retirement guys or the dtv guys, they are not spending as much, but it's consistent. You know if you are looking how much they spend during one year. That's a lot of money for housing, for going out for a phone company, for bills, whatever yeah, yeah, when it's like for the Thai people to live in Thailand, my own country.
Speaker 2:It's also been hard and been more expensive every fucking year. I mean my condo's over.
Speaker 3:I pay one year upfront, all the time. Wow, 113,000 baht. I pay out Without deposit, that's with a deposit, oh, with a deposit, with a 5,000 deposit, so 108,000, which is a lot of money. Which is a lot of money, but I'm paying that straight out every year like every January.
Speaker 1:That's good. I was thinking about doing that, but then we got to like we thought about it and we wanted to rent like a big house and like live as a roommate, which I know doesn't really make sense. But me personally, I'm like I don't like to be alone, you know, I prefer to know that. Yeah, it's not in my room but in the house somewhere. Yeah, we also spoke with Ellie. She might be our roommate. So it's me, scott, and now we are searching the house and the roommate. We actually probably will go see house next week. You know where is the village?
Speaker 1:I've heard of it do you know the village?
Speaker 2:no, I see some couple of house, a couple of houses, but mostly like in the dark side dark side has got some beautiful houses and not expensive.
Speaker 1:I tell you more than that. It's half the price, half the price of what you pay in Pattaya itself. Right, I know that, the dark side, you get amazing houses with pool with everything. But let's be honest. How many times would you use the pool?
Speaker 3:ah, I'm in the pool every day. Really, you would go every day. I didn't now today, I didn't, but I was by the pool today, but I didn't go in swimming.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, every day I I don't know how much I would use that and the other thing is that I really prefer the option to walk around. I don't mind to pay for the boat or whatever, but I want to be able to just go out of my house and have something there. You know, in the dark side, it's kind of still dead. There are some bars over there, there are some gentlemen clubs, mostly by the way, but it's not the same. Gentlemen clubs mostly by the way, but it's not the same. So the village is on the third road, just in front of the hospital of the third road.
Speaker 2:The Pattaya City Hospital. Yeah, that's very close.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's not far from me. That's not far from here. No, it is far from here.
Speaker 1:It's a five-minute walk. Five minutes to Cherpun, yeah. But they're very close yeah and it's a nice place and they have a pool, but not in the house. They have the neighborhood pool.
Speaker 2:That you can go to. They share a facility.
Speaker 1:It's not exactly that. It's like a bar with a pool, but everyone in the neighborhood goes there and it's really close and the prices are reasonable. So a three bedroom house it's like 10 or 12, something like that.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? 10k yeah.
Speaker 1:What? 10 or 12. Yeah, my friend, she just moved from a three bedroom to a 4 bedroom and the 4 bedroom she paid 15. What?
Speaker 1:in the middle of the city, yeah it's crazy and I hope I will lock down the house before this episode go out so people will know. But the prices are good. You need to know where to look at and again, the best way and people don't understand that in pattaya if you look online or facebook, you will find the higher prices. Yeah, yeah, but if you know people, that know people yeah yeah, so in the village this is how it works.
Speaker 1:Everyone knows, oh, there is a vacant house now and many people come and see that house, you know, and those are the prices and it's amazing I think that's why the house in my, uh, my brother village is like not really winslet, it's uh okay majestic.
Speaker 2:That's why the house. Is that it's just on this uh, it's not so far from here. You can drive more, more motorbike from here, like, uh, from tepid, like three minutes, okay, three minute or two minute, and then it's not so far from here, not so far from you can drive more motorbike from here, like from Tepesuit, like 3 minutes ok, 3 minutes or 2 minutes ok and then it's like I remember the house opposite size of of the house that I stay.
Speaker 2:It's like one time it's like it got empty, but at least for 2 days, and then people move in and then later I see like, oh, and then later I see like, oh, the car is shang. They shang the car.
Speaker 1:And then I asked my brother like oh, no, it's shang han, the new, new rental really all the time it's so fast, it's so fast in this, in around this area too, yeah and another thing that is good about finding a house that is not like from a company, because most of the houses here are from like rental companies no, no, not agents, rental companies that. So they own like 50 houses. So, for example, my friend that live in the village, they are staying two people in one house, yeah. And I asked her what about the bills? How much you paid last time? So first of all she explained to me when she's there he's not there, right? So there is always one person in the house, so that means the aircon is always on. I asked so how much you pay for electricity? She say 700. I said what the fuck? It's so cheap 700. And water, they pay 100.
Speaker 2:So the bills they don't use. They don't use. Do they have aircon?
Speaker 1:yeah, and she said the aircon is always on, always on 24 hours 700. So this means they charge us so many, so much money in those condos or whatever, because they can. Yeah, and I you have to get, you have to like normally, like in those condos or whatever, because they can.
Speaker 2:And you have to get. You have to like normally, like if I rent somewhere I always like okay, I want to rent the one that don't charge extra, normally like a Thai small apartment it's already very cheap, like under 5,000, 3,000, 2,000, but they charge extra on the electric though.
Speaker 1:So my electricity where I stay now is 8 baht per unit, but she pay my friend in the village. They pay only 2 baht per unit. Really, yeah, 2 or 3, something like that. So my electricity last time last month was almost 2,000 baht.
Speaker 2:Is that possible? Is that possible Because it sounds like the tea in the village is like a house village right.
Speaker 1:No, no, the place called the village.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. Sorry, I used the wrong term. I mean like the villa. You call it the villa.
Speaker 1:It's not a villa, it's just a townhouse.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, but they don't have the electric bill from the government bill.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure but this is what you pay.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit too no.
Speaker 3:I think the government minimum is three points. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:No, I said two or three. I'm not yeah, yeah, but 700,. It makes sense because if I paid, I'm paying eight per unit, I'm paying 10. You're paying 10, right, and you're reaching 2,000 baht electricity.
Speaker 3:My water is 27.
Speaker 1:So my water is fixed. It's 200 per person, it's fixed. But they pay per unit in water and electricity. Yeah, same as me. So the water was only 100 baht last time.
Speaker 2:The water I'm not surprised. Water is cheap. Yeah, water, as me. So the water was only 100, but last time the water. I'm not surprised. Water is cheap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, water is cheap, but 700 for electricity is nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean we probably like gonna use some other than that.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's say we are three people.
Speaker 2:One person in one house. That means they probably gonna use like one room per house.
Speaker 1:They're not open like the aircon, yeah but I'm, I'm living right right now in one room, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Thousand, that'd be separate room, three person in one house right, but it's like it is time time. Three person is still cheap.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So let's say 700 times three, it's still okay for you yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So this is amazing and it's kind of furniture.
Speaker 1:Most of the the house there are already furnitured, so you don't need All furnished. Yeah, so you don't need anything. They have like washing machine, which is yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the only interesting stuff. Washing machine.
Speaker 1:No, it is Because I, for example, I don't own washing machine here, and when I say they don't have so I go to some lady that do the laundry for me, which I pay a lot of money near to my condo, not even have that, like I have to hand wash because I lazy to walk out, no, no, not in my condo, oh really too lazy so you hand wash everything so it's
Speaker 1:cheaper. You are not paying as much. I pay like last time I took my whole clothes. I only had one shirt left, one shirt. I used the same underwear for two days. Oh yeah, nasty.
Speaker 3:Back and front, in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1:I took the whole clothes to the laundry lady and I paid like 600 baht which is still a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, but you don't want to pay as much, that much you know. I went with our aggressive friends last time yeah, from 69, she wanted to do laundry. She did it on one of those laundry places, yeah Right, and she paid. The whole thing cost her, like I don't know, 100 baht, 150 baht.
Speaker 2:One time my bill from the laundry place is like can call it up to like 2,000 baht too.
Speaker 1:But I get it, You're a lady.
Speaker 2:No, I mean like because I wait until, like okay, my closet's empty and then I have like big shirt like this but you have more clothes than I do.
Speaker 1:How many shirts I have? I have like 10 shirts, right Few pants, only thing I have a lot of is underwear and socks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it. Like we are, men, we don't need new outfits every time.
Speaker 3:For example, you, I never see you wear the same clothes, never. You always have soon. Soon you will see I did not, I did not bring much.
Speaker 2:I like I ran out of the last chair in house with the one back alley.
Speaker 1:So okay, like a few clothes okay, so this is the situation that we are thinking. We are thinking about moving in the village, yeah, and our ideal situation place will be actually four bedroom, because we want an office, because also me, scott and ellie we also have like many work that we do from the computer, yeah, so if we have an office, yeah, it will be great. Yeah, so we are thinking about it. But we can always create an office in the living room, it doesn't really matter yeah, but no, I mean like a walking space that sometime I can walk.
Speaker 1:I'll explain to you what I mean. Last time I had to do some work. I had like four hours or five hours of work I had to do, yeah, about the podcast. Yeah, yeah, and scott has his own work that he had to do. So he took his tablet and we just went to some coffee shop, you know, and we sat together, had few laughs, have had few drinks, but working the whole time, yeah, it's much easier to walk like that than just sitting alone in your room, like you know.
Speaker 2:Even normally I just like lay down on the bed, have laptop and then mouse, you just yeah, and then you find yourself because there is no one there, you find yourself just watching stupid youtube videos for like oh, you have all the time and, by the way, I can you know that I gave you the laptop right.
Speaker 1:I can see what you're watching. You're watching crazy stuff. Sometimes I see a youtube is like civil engineering, or what happened when you put poop inside the water, it's okay, but it's funny. It's funny to see like I'm I'm looking at what the fuck is she watching?
Speaker 2:is it show on you?
Speaker 1:I use, I use my youtube you use, but we share the google earlier.
Speaker 2:I don't use.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we share the google, the home, the call. So I see all the searches. Now I don't think I'm stalking me. No, there is no come on you know what? There is no car, no, there is no phone, there is no nothing interesting like that yeah just weird youtube.
Speaker 2:Yeah, weird youtube videos yeah, if you go to my search bar history, it's just a no, no, it's not a search bar.
Speaker 1:It's not like I'm looking what you're searching, I just when I open chrome automatically give you the list of the last no, no list of the last thing you watched, all right yeah, same thing like.
Speaker 2:I mean, like, if you really like want to look on my uh history search bar, it's just all about game that's like computer gaming and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:By the way, guys, soon she's going to start streaming oh, I dropped that why you dropped that I try, I try, I try, I try one time, just for like one hour okay but then it's just I don't know I you do you know what twitch is wait, I have to explain to him Twitch.
Speaker 1:So Twitch is a platform that people can go on and live stream themselves, mostly while they are gaming, so you can see what they are playing, and then you can see them also and they talk to their viewer, to the people that view them, and everything yeah, I think I want to do that.
Speaker 2:I try one hour but then I stream on. I forgot, okay, some platform, I forgot the name, but then it's like just one person talking to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I told you, I told you in advance, this is what will happen. Yeah, so I told you. I told you in advance, this is what will happen. You have to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I just want to learn how to record the game screen and record myself at the same time. I will show you today how to do that.
Speaker 1:I will show you exactly what software you need to do that. I have the laptop here so we can do that. So by the way. And then another thing. So john used to be married to a thai lady. Oh yeah, for how many years again, john?
Speaker 3:well, uh, we're still married 21 years technically you're still married split up after seven so yeah, 14 years we've been split up, yeah, yeah, you hear it.
Speaker 1:So long time they are not together already.
Speaker 2:Okay, but they are still married. Okay.
Speaker 1:Married, divorced. Yeah, and she's in the UK and probably, I think, probably and he's here.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't know, not contact.
Speaker 2:What happened If you?
Speaker 3:don't mind, we just split, we just. If you don't mind, we just Okay.
Speaker 2:It happened, come on.
Speaker 3:Nobody else involved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same with my.
Speaker 3:Cape Town boyfriend.
Speaker 2:He will watch it and he will curse me.
Speaker 1:Your Thai boyfriend.
Speaker 2:No, my Cape Town boyfriend. See some people, they be like that she go to those South African guys.
Speaker 1:No, that's good People, they be like that. She go to those South African guys no, that's good.
Speaker 2:That's good. Oh, just like two days ago he was calling me After three years. I cried why.
Speaker 1:What happened, what he wanted? Just like to catch up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he just wonder how I'm doing. He's just like yeah, he's nice, he's a very nice guy.
Speaker 1:We are still looking for a boyfriend. Through the, through the podcast, we want to find a boyfriend.
Speaker 2:We told the listeners like oh, yeah, if you don't mind, you might not see me for like a month or two, because I'm going to be vegetable at home.
Speaker 3:They might be able to be a vegetable in home with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you need someone to be with you there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be good. Get a cat. Get a cat is better than a boyfriend. Well, something's not the same. No, no, come on, no.
Speaker 3:We are not going down. Not the same pleasure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's different, it's different.
Speaker 1:Well, me and you mostly go to the 80-boy bar, so I don't know what we are thinking about having a pussy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 1:Of course. Of course I'm not saying, I'm just saying that you know it's a different environment. I will say that, john, we were asking last time the same question to other people because I really want our listeners to be able to enjoy our knowledge of the places we know here. So, in your opinion, right now, what are the best bars to go to except of the bar next to your house, because it's a small bar to go to, except of the bar next to your house because it's a small bar?
Speaker 3:I mainly well go to the bar near my condo. Yeah, I go, obviously Peachy, Peachy.
Speaker 1:Lily in LK Metro. You've been there, right? Hmm, you've been in Peachy Lily.
Speaker 2:Not sure.
Speaker 1:Not sure it's a Ladyboy or Gogo bar. Maybe not.
Speaker 2:We should take you there. So, peachy, lily, not sure, not sure.
Speaker 1:It's a ladyboy, a go-go bar, maybe not Okay, we should take you there.
Speaker 3:So, pitchy Lily, I've seen this Pog Bar.
Speaker 1:Pog Bar. Pog Bar, it's one of the only bars I avoid, is it? Yeah, because I tell you why they are so hassle heavy over there. The moment we sit down, immediately there is someone coming. Ok, let's go to room, let's go to room. And she is not letting go. They really work on the short times over there and it's kind of like sometimes when you are with the guys, like no, I will not go to the short time it's all about pressure yeah, ok, no, I will not go to the short time.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's on my pressure. Yeah, yeah, say PG KIU, okay.
Speaker 1:Delirious 69.
Speaker 3:Bon Bal. Yeah, fantasy sometimes. Oh, fantasy is an interesting bar. Yeah, cindy is delirious 69 bar. And no, not Ladyboy Bar. Duanji Duanjai oh.
Speaker 1:Duanjai Duan bar and no, not ladyboy bar. Do anji, do anjay, oh, do anjay, don't die, don't die, uh, gg. So all the ladyboy bars? He's just naming all the ladyboy bars.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's better fun, it's the best fun it is, it is it's the best fun and lady bars, not really, not really, no, sometimes. The other day I went in Treetown, palm Beach.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I know that Palm Beach it's a nice lovely place it is and they have like big pool tables over there. Yeah, and they have the screens when they build the big screen. You've been there. It's like amazing they are doing the killer pool the killer killer pool.
Speaker 1:You know the game, but what they do. They have two huge screens and they have two tables big ones and you see everything on the screens the name. It's very professional the way they do the killer pool over there. It's like, I think, the most professional place I've seen. Yeah, but this is why it's packed all the time. This is the reason. Yeah, so it's nice. I don't like Killer Pool, in my opinion. By the way, I just got the cards back. You know what cards I mean. You remember the card game we used to play in Delirious before? Yes, I got the cards back.
Speaker 3:From what you left them there, did you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I had more cards in other bars.
Speaker 3:Oh right, so I placed some cards everywhere.
Speaker 1:No, that was good fun.
Speaker 3:So now.
Speaker 1:I put that in 69. In 69? Yeah, so even you can go ask if I'm not there. Hey, I want to play there and they will join you. You played that game with us before I don't think.
Speaker 2:so what card? So it's a very interesting game.
Speaker 1:It's called Poker Pool, poker Pool. So you get cards On the cards. It represents the real balls on the table. What All the cards? Each card shows you a ball from the pool table, so let's say the 8 ball, the 7 ball, whatever right. And each card show you a ball from the pool table, so let's say the eight ball, the seven ball there, whatever right. And each card have four copies. And let's say the three of us, so each one of us get eight cards, for example, and your goal is to get rid of all your cards. Each time a ball that you have in your cards go inside, you take out the card okay, okay, how about, like we, we do that, maybe next episode.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, it could be fun. No, you cannot play it here.
Speaker 1:You need a pool table, oh is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you play it with the pool, the cards and the pool table, so you have a pool ball.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:So much for my hair, Okay okay, okay, I need to say it from like, from a real person.
Speaker 1:It's a really good game, that's how that's best.
Speaker 2:I learn right.
Speaker 1:I learn it when I do it and you can play up to 10 players.
Speaker 3:I think if she see the cards, she will understand immediately. Yeah, better idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there is of mind games over there, because me and you can have the same card.
Speaker 3:So you could have three of the same cards, four of the same cards and then you just two balls and you won.
Speaker 1:Okay, we will show you that next time. It's interesting, it's fun. So I got the cards back because I really I told you I don't enjoy the killer pool. It takes too long and people are just not very involved in that game. It's very singular game, you know, even though many people are playing. Yeah, it's basically you're playing against yourself, you're not playing against anyone else. Now you're playing how good you are at pocketing a ball and the game that I'm speaking is very like you have to go for that particular ball, yeah but you play with other, but you don't want anyone else to know what balls you have.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's more like a connection between yeah everyone.
Speaker 1:You see everyone with the cards and hiding the cards and like it's interesting. So this game I know for a long time from. I didn't invent that game but many people think I did. You remember back then everything. Oh, that's Mike's game, that's Mike's game, but it's very nice. So we will play that next time. And I really like those kind of things because just sitting in a bar and drinking all the time can get boring.
Speaker 2:And then I also like very boring same game like connect four checking, but I learned some. And then I also, like I'm very boring, like same game like connect flow checking. You know, oh, I fucking hate that, but I learned some new game. Before I quit the job I learned some new game that I really like. It's like I don't I forget the name, but I think it's called like Caught the Liar. It's like it's with the dice right.
Speaker 3:Okay, the checking dice.
Speaker 2:And then it's like, yeah right.
Speaker 1:And then it's like, yeah, but it's a different game.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, but then it's like, uh, after you shake, right, yeah. And then uh, the first, it's going to be like first person, first person. The example like this is my, my route to. To call Example, I say, uh, number dice, that's me. Then the people can guess, you know, like, if there's three of the.
Speaker 2:You say that no one see oh no, no, so it's like you try to lie yeah, that's all like if, so, if the, if the someone say like no, you lie, then I have to open, and then, if I don't, but everyone have to open. If I don't have three dice or four, then I lose. But sometimes it's like this If I have one one, it counts as any number.
Speaker 1:Oh, and then three. So number one can be six or can be five, can be anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so even if I have like just one, one, only one, but then other people have four and then it counts more than three. I win. So the person who says I'm lying.
Speaker 1:How many dice? You have Four dice, Six, Six. So the best thing you can get is six times one. Then you can. No one can like you say I have six, six, you win.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2:But like if the person who says I'm lying, but after count all the table, I have it, and then he will take out the dice, one dice, until the person who lose all the dice first lose, oh, okay. It's more long game, but I like it better than short game and it's more communicative. So the winner is the last last man standing basically okay, normally we don't really, uh, yeah, yeah, the winner is last standing, yeah okay, I, I, I want to tell that to the listeners.
Speaker 1:So many of the bars if you've never been here they have all sorts of games. The reason they have those games is because some of the girls don't speak very good english or sometimes they don't have too much.
Speaker 2:No, sometimes, sometimes they don't have too much?
Speaker 1:no, sometimes, although they don't have too many things in common, right, so they cannot speak too much. So the girls always bring games out. So, as she said, connect four. There are the dice games. There are different dice game that we play normally, which is actually gambling game the one and six. You know that. Yeah, this is a dangerous game because it's so quick and then you lose a lot of drinks.
Speaker 2:I quite have a good.
Speaker 1:There is no skill there, you can.
Speaker 2:After you open, you can trip it like trick it.
Speaker 1:My friend. She's very good.
Speaker 2:No, no, I mean not like trip it by hand, but for the next round you can predict how to check it to get the dice you want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's still not 100% skill, it's mostly luck and most of the people just do them three, four times put and then they open and they have, of course, pool and they have the jackpot, how it's called. I hate that game. Yeah, I hate this game.
Speaker 2:this is so boring they can always start with that. It's easy to understand.
Speaker 1:For them and, for example, I went to a soy bar soy six bar before uh named soho. You know ollie, he's going. He went to Delirious many times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know him from Delirious.
Speaker 1:I've never been to his bar, so in his bar it's a very game-heavy bar and mostly the girls don't play the games with you, but the bartenders do. You have two bartenders and they actually look alike, but they are not sisters, but they look very similar. I think on purpose they try to look similar to confuse people and they have like 50, 60 drinks every day just from the games and they play everything. Connect four and the fucking crocodile, yeah, yeah, all those kind of games and this is actually a very smart way to generate money without pushing the customer to buy drinks.
Speaker 1:Like hey, let's play a game, let's make it fun. If you win, I buy you a drink. If I win, you buy me a drink, like in 69 Bar.
Speaker 3:when I go in there you play pool play for a drink, I'll go in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but sometimes you win and you get a drink alcohol in it yeah, but sometimes you win and you get a drink which is fair, which is fair in that way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so too. Some people are just so scared to play the game with the lady which game Connect Four, because the ladies, of course they are professional.
Speaker 1:No, not Connect Four.
Speaker 2:Even just the shaking game Like guys so easy, just pure luck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I understand that some guys feel they don't like to feel pressured to buy drinks. This is actually a big, big thing, because I understand the girls. The drinks are the biggest part of their salary, right, if they are not making drinks, they are not making money. Right, it's not only about the show time or the long time, basically the sex. No, it's mostly the drinks and it's they have to get a drink. But for the customer, he's thinking and I understand where the customer coming from oh, I will see this in this bar now I will spend two thousand baht for drinks or I can just take someone and fuck, because the customers want to fuck, basically, and the girls want the drinks.
Speaker 3:So it's like it's a cat and mouse if I run it 50, 60, 70 bar per drink.
Speaker 1:Well, you are drinking beer. You are a beer guy. I'm not drinking beer. I'm drinking vodka and Schweppes, which is 150 or 120. Yeah, or the Smile of Ice, which is the cheapest one is 100 and delirious, and normally it's 130. Right, although, although, although I have something interesting to say. So yesterday I went to some random bar that my friend. She walks there. She's a lady. I know her many years, saw her before. She's the lady next. She have a bar next to delirious. You saw her many times oh, yeah, you remember her.
Speaker 1:So in her bar they sell everything for 55 baht beers 55, you want, whiskey 55, vodka 55 with mixer. And I just told Scott, like we are wasting so much money on getting drunk, we can just go there drink as much as we can Get drunk first. Yeah, get drunk first and then go to the other places. You know it's much cheaper, yeah. And he said like, yeah, you're absolutely right, because normally I pay 150 baht for my drink, which is still not a lot compared to back home, I know.
Speaker 2:But when you are staying here every day and drinking almost every day and at least five, six drinks every day, I like it like that Because, like example, like Sam when I was in Bangkok, I like the play game, you know like play game before you go to the club.
Speaker 2:You do like play game. Play game time In Bangkok. It used to the club. You do like pre-game. Yeah, yeah, in bangkok it used to have like I don't know if they still have it, because at some point they start to don't have a much of it. It's called the ship charlie bar. Okay, yeah, it's just it's not. You cannot even call it a bar because like not really have much seats, you know, compared to like all the customers. So, like everyone just go there for play game until until like 10 pm and then we hit to the car okay and it's very cheap to drink over it is it's so cheap, like same, like, uh what you say, like around 55 60, yeah 50, 60, 70 baht.
Speaker 2:That's it. Yeah, but yeah. But some girl also can be a little bit like oh, you want to date, honest? No, I want to get drunk and I yeah, for me.
Speaker 1:For me, for example, I don't like to drink in my room. I don't like. I try to avoid that. I don't have any alcohol in my room because I think this is the first step for alcoholism. Yeah, when you are drinking in your room alone, that's bad news. Yeah, and we know many guys here that even before they go out they get like smashed in the rooms like having like half a liter or whatever, and then they go out.
Speaker 1:By the way, even michelle michelle, every time before we go out he have like five or four drinks in his room and I think it's not like yeah, I've got no alcohol at all yeah and I, I really prefer that because I don't want to be dependent on that. I prefer to go out, but when we go out again we are paying more. So there have to be some balance for that and I really wish someone would open like, even like, let's say, a ladyboy bar for example, which have those kind of prices for drinks. Then we will be there all the time. Like, if you go Dongjai now, which is the cheapest ladyboy bar right now, you pay, I think, 80 or 90 for a vodka right Over there.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1:The beers are always cheap there also. They are like 65, I think. Yeah, I always drink San Miguel In Dongjai, always cheap there also, they are like 65 I think san miguel in dong jai I think it's 65, for, yeah, it's not expensive, yeah, no, it's not.
Speaker 1:So it's much better to have those kind of prices and then you will stay there longer. You remember we spoke last time about the thing that if you go to a cheap place, sometimes you even spend more than you would spend in other places because you think, oh, it's so cheap, I can. Yeah, I can afford it, yeah, yeah, so I really maybe we can do it together open that kind of a ladyboy bar oh, there's a cheap charlie, yeah, cheap charlie ladyboy bar.
Speaker 1:That can be nice. Yeah, we call it. I don't have a name like charlie. What is the female version of charlie?
Speaker 2:a name like charlie. What is the female?
Speaker 1:version of charlie. Uh, half for sure they have something that sounds like that. Do you have an idea? No, I don't like john. I will say joanna, for example. So charlie will be like charlie's, I don't know. So you call it the cheap charlie's bar. I don't know.
Speaker 2:You guys can give us ideas we might open maybe one day you fight us off in the bar together and, as I see, we have to close to finish this episode.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, john, I love you, brother. We always have so much fun and we were supposed to do another kind of episode today, but it's still. It was interesting. I think we shared a lot of like real raw stuff today, yeah, you know. Yeah, no filters, no, nothing, just explaining the experience. So, thank you for coming back and I we also have some plans. Might be next sunday we have to decide. Yeah, because he has some friend that he wants to bring to our podcast. He said a very interesting guy that we we can set up. So you guys might have another interesting episode with john soon. So, thank you, thank you, uh, anything you want, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry okay, thank you, you guys, for listening, listening.
Speaker 2:What is that listening? And don't forget to like and subscribe, yeah and, as she said, like, subscribe.
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