My Thai Wife
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My Thai Wife
The Three Musketeers share their unfiltered experiences with ladyboys, friendships, and Pattaya nightlife
What happens when you leave paradise and return to reality? Scott, freshly back from England after three weeks that "felt like fucking months," brings raw perspective on the crushing differences between Thai and Western living. His unfiltered account of freezing in 20°C weather while locals wore t-shirts, paying £80 for a 50-minute taxi (compared to £27 for a two-hour ride in Thailand), and encountering dismissive attitudes from women paints a vivid picture of reverse culture shock.
The Three Musketeers reunite in this vodka-fueled episode to explore what makes Thailand magnetic for Western expatriates. Through personal stories, they reveal how astronomical Western living costs are driving a quiet exodus of those seeking better quality of life. Michel adds fascinating context about how Europeans who once visited Thailand twice yearly now struggle to come even once, highlighting a growing global financial squeeze that's changing tourism patterns.
Between laughter and heartfelt moments, the trio delves into housing in Pattaya (7,000 baht monthly for quality accommodation), Scott's painful motocross accident, and surprisingly thoughtful reflections on respecting people in the nightlife industry. They challenge listeners to see beyond stereotypes and build genuine connections. Whether you're contemplating escape from Western financial pressures or simply curious about expatriate perspectives, this conversation offers honest insights into what happens when different worlds collide.
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Okay, so we are live. So three, two, hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife podcast. I'm Mike. This is Scott, he's back from England and we are having Michel here, which is actually having us here. Yeah, you guys are back. Yeah, we are back. You were kind enough to let us use your usual studio. Yeah, the guys are back. Yeah, we are back. You were kind enough to let us use your usual studio. Yeah, the place to be. Yeah, actually, this is something that we waited a long time to do, like the drunk episode. Yeah, so you don't see it, guys, but behind the scene we have a big bottle of vodka and some like mixers or whatever, we're not exposed to brand, but it's a good vodka.
Speaker 1:It's an okay vodka. It's okay, it's not the best one. We will not have a strong hangover, hopefully as long as not the other brand, which we will not name.
Speaker 1:You know, the other day I was in Pitchy Lily and I was speaking with I will not say her name, but I was speaking with the mama son over there, okay, and I told her like the vodka that they serve, I suspect, is causing like big hangovers because like every time we went there we had like two. You think they chose the cheapest version. I'm not saying it's the cheapest, because it costs exactly as much as this one, okay, but it's like affecting me, at least it's giving me headache. So while I was speaking with that, about that with her, she asked that question to a lady boy that we all know which owns two lady boy bars, and she doesn't really like me because I had a fight with her ex. Not a fight, but like it's a weird situation. So you know, both of you know who I'm talking about and she tried to make us have a conversation. It was like very weird yeah, and I said oh, no, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1:It's okay, give me that vodka. I don't want to argue about that, but it was funny. You're back from England. Yes, you've been there for a long time.
Speaker 1:We missed you we even had, we survived, man, you know the listeners don't know that we even have a group, the three of us like a chatting group, and it's called the Three Musketeers. Yeah, and while you were out of here, we had to change the name to the Blues Brothers. Yeah, it was the two lonely Blues Brothers. Yeah, but it's still the Blues Brothers. You have to change it back.
Speaker 2:You change the picture. I changed the picture, yeah, but I realized it last time and then I wanted to change it, but then I had something to do and I said, okay, change it later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are not, of course, but we are not Blues Brothers anymore.
Speaker 2:No, we are back to the Muscatiers.
Speaker 3:You say it's not just a group chat though.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 3:It's how we I don't know call ourselves all the time.
Speaker 1:It's not just the group, we also have our special chant that we are like once in a while when we're having our shots. Okay, I have to explain that to the listeners, because if I say the name that we call the shots, it should be very weird.
Speaker 2:But it's not already Rival, so we're not the only ones who call it that way. No, no. So it's almost like in every bar, they're completely adopted.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait. First, the drink is called tequila rose which is a weird, very weak pink tequila.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's almost like milk, right?
Speaker 1:That's why it becomes yeah, it's almost like milk, right? That's why it becomes yeah, it's very milky. They probably have some kind of milk inside that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's really thick. It looks like milk, right.
Speaker 3:It's like a strawberry milkshake, isn't it? So it's not transparent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not transparent. Yeah, and we call it.
Speaker 3:Boy sperm.
Speaker 1:Right, just as a joke. But every time we have it we have some chance. We will not repeat it, because I don't want YouTube to block us, but most of the time and also it's ours, yeah, so fuck off.
Speaker 3:No one else is stealing it.
Speaker 1:You know what? I don't know how many people will actually adopt and use it for their own, because it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2:Normally we get weird looks. It's like the lady boy when we went last time to the bar and she said yeah, I like it too, so she wanted to be a part of it.
Speaker 1:She wasn't talking about the drink.
Speaker 2:She had the drink, but she wanted to be part of it, right? Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 3:But you can explain the concept of how we've copied it.
Speaker 1:Okay, you can explain it Okay.
Speaker 3:so when a customer rings a bell in the bars and then all the girls come around and they say what the fuck did? They say they say a random chant that nobody starts with with.
Speaker 1:Are you ready?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then the bar name, and then thank you, and then we love you, and then scream, just random scream, yeah. And then they do that, drake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they have like three chairs, right?
Speaker 1:It depends on the bar.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I thought it's like everywhere three no.
Speaker 3:But of course it's not loud.
Speaker 2:Whoa, whoa. That's too many lines, only three. So I have even problem the first time to remember the three lines you know.
Speaker 1:So we need to be special, we need to do four lines.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I need a month to get used to it.
Speaker 1:But it's not only ladyboy bars, I'm just saying, it's all the bars when they have like.
Speaker 3:Someone ring the bell or a birthday or something like that.
Speaker 1:They want to thank him by making him shy.
Speaker 3:I guess yeah, shy, yeah. So we created our own chant.
Speaker 1:We created our own chant, which usually just draw a lot of attention to us, which is funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fun Because we not do it on the normal state of mind, right? So if we do it, so we have already, like I don't know, like eight vodkas or whatever.
Speaker 3:you know it's not our first drink. We would never say it like in the first drink, so everybody needs to have their own level.
Speaker 2:And then when I would say, like in the first ring, so everybody needs to have their own level. And then when someone feeling it so and then like randomly, one of us show up with the tree or some of the ladyboys joining four or five shots and then let's go baby stop here, stop here.
Speaker 1:But I would say to the listeners that if sometimes you find yourself here in pataya, you can join us you can then know what the chant is. I hope you it will not make you too shy no, it's the right environment to say it's like you know. It reminds me something that happened for me and scott. I will explain so you remember the time that you had no apartment, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, homeless, yeah Homeless. He was homeless for a while.
Speaker 1:And I told him you can come stay in my room, but it would be weird if just two of us in the same bed, so we had to have someone in between.
Speaker 2:Yes, Like a barricade.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But, for people that are not into ladyboys it sounds weird because we just added the ladyboy. So instead of by just being two men in a bed, I'm like there's too many cocks here so she was in the middle. Well, she was more in your side, I must say. Come on, I woke at least once seeing you guys doing stuff no oh, you wasn't aware about that.
Speaker 2:You get caught now the truth comes out come on now she was just oh shit, I'm not alone. Oh yeah, oh, oh damn Put him to sleep.
Speaker 3:Just looking at Mike, what else is happening. You know what?
Speaker 1:I was so cool about it. I just woke up, saw him, saw her giving him blowjob, and I was just okay, I just turned the head to the other side. Let them do whatever they do.
Speaker 3:Just me with a smile on my face. Scott sleeps funny. Our eyes didn't lock in, so it's okay, it wasn't that weird.
Speaker 1:Hey, come on, you don't know, maybe it will go out, okay, okay. So I want to speak a bit about what you said when you were gone. So obviously we missed you and it wasn't the same, but I think it was much harder for you. Not because of us, because how shitty it was for you to be back home, except of one thing, which is your son.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah. So it was good being home, seeing my son, seeing my family, like that part of it was great. But fuck me, I hate England. It's fucking shit and like I just missed here all the time and I was just constantly like just get me back to Thailand. So I went on one night out.
Speaker 1:First of all, you went there for three weeks. Yeah, three weeks yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so there for three weeks. Yeah, three weeks, yeah, yeah, so there for three weeks. Feels like nine. Oh, it felt like fucking mumps. But yeah, I went to the pub a couple of times the first week I was there astonishing drink prices. I even joked with the bar manager saying, fuck me, I could have bought like 10 double vodkas in Thailand for the price of two or three beers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess it's also expensive in Germany, right in the bars.
Speaker 2:I've never been to England, but I guess it's similar.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think yeah.
Speaker 2:We've got everything else in the bar right, yeah.
Speaker 3:So anyway, that was expensive, and then I went on one night out within 15 minutes I'd seen a fight.
Speaker 1:I'd seen someone get hit by a car.
Speaker 3:No seats, no ss. No, no one had their tits out. No one touched my cock I was you know, really disappointed, uh. And again, like I think most people listening to this will probably, if they've come here, they'll understand the attraction to come in here. Fucking women in england they're just. They think there's something special that I think it's not only England, it's the Western mentality yeah, but they like Christ.
Speaker 3:I saw some sites like not attractive girls whatsoever and you try and just have an honest conversation with them and they won't even give you the time of day at all.
Speaker 1:It's like, oh fuck, get away from me you told me one of them called you big fucking homo. What she called you, I don't know. Oh, you said a full-blown homo, um full-blown gay, or something like that oh, because I spoke to one about being in thailand yeah fucking ladyboys and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So oh, and, and so you hear that.
Speaker 3:So give you already like the homo yeah, yeah yeah, she's gonna give the homo, and I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see it but the thing is I'm thinking listen, she's like the girls that I've had here, lady boys I've had here fucking 10 times better looking than you. So if that makes me gay, what, what, what does it make it?
Speaker 1:if a fucking cock makes you gay, yeah okay, what does?
Speaker 3:what does what does it make, like, if I fuck you? So yeah, a farmer, that's a good one. Sorry she had the plow attached to the back of her. It's like you know here like the whole, like, oh, buffalo sick, all that sort of stuff, like they are the fucking buffaloes back there. So it's not like, oh, someone need to come fuck the buffalo.
Speaker 3:So you don't need the weather also, Like you got so used to the weather here in thailand yeah, so when I landed, it was 20 degrees and I was fucking freezing, so it is actually fine right in europe. Yeah, like so, like everyone else is walking around shorts and t-shirt, the first three days, I'm like like jeans, hoodies, like everything really cold. And then the weather picked up and it got up to about 30 31 degrees, which is pretty standard here. So and then everyone was moaning oh, it's too, fucking hot. Oh, my god, it's so hot and I'm sitting there like this is fine, this is lovely. I've got no sun cream on, I don't care, like it's okay, but yeah, it's just.
Speaker 3:But talking to people in the UK, like everyone is sick of it, like everyone is absolutely sick of it, like the government changing and taxes and stuff like that and I won't go into that because we're going to talk, we're going to talk about that in something else. But, um, everyone like everyone that I spoke to that didn't know that I'd moved out here was then just like oh, you know what fair play like good on you, like I hope it I hope it goes well.
Speaker 3:you know, not one said, oh, you're a madman, why would you do that? Everyone was just envious, jealous of what I've done. So, yeah, a lot of people just said, oh look, if I could do the same, then I would. So yeah, people are just sick of it back home.
Speaker 2:Go on talking. I think the sad story about it and I think it's similar what the case is to the people when I talked to them back in Germany is like because the random costs are so high, not about the taxes, but also just keeping the house warm in the winter and whatsoever.
Speaker 3:Just jungle living costs yes.
Speaker 2:You need to have the car, the gasoline, all this stuff if you put it all together so that they don't have the chance anymore to save anything. So that's why, if we look Depends, how much they make, yeah, but I see, like most of the people, of course you will always have some people.
Speaker 1:You mean?
Speaker 2:the average, yeah the average.
Speaker 2:You will always have some people you mean the average, yeah, the average, you know what I mean. You will always have some people that are making good money and that will be able to save and living also really fine back in Europe. But you see it here. So why do you think the tourism goes so backwards? You know what I mean and why. We have now a different picture on the street. What we had five, six years ago and it's going on because the people have no chance actually to save the money to come here again, and maybe before they could come maybe twice a year. So now, if they are lucky, they can do it maybe once, or maybe they need to have like two years or three years just to have a two, three weeks holiday. You know what I mean. So this is the sad truth. It's depressing.
Speaker 1:It's really depressing.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because you're just working actually the entire time just to pay all your bills and everything and you're not even able to have the holiday that you really desire. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think, the one thing that I've noticed the flight prices are astronomical now, so for me return you you bought tickets that were like you bought them very close to the date that you had to actually, yeah, but.
Speaker 3:But still, even when I've looked at in the future, they they're much, much higher than what they were before. So when I used to come before, it was like, say, 600 pounds.
Speaker 2:So how much was it? Yet what's that in bar?
Speaker 1:Okay, 600 pounds, it's about 20,000. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sorry for the background noises. By the way, I just make a new drink.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so like 20,000, 25,000 baht, something like that. I paid about 1,000 pounds this time, but even when I've looked at flights further on, you know, like not so short notice, it's still about the same price.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So that's a big thing. And when I've spoke to people in the UK about coming to Thailand on holiday, sometimes it's oh, my wife, my girlfriend would never let me do that. But, like when I was younger, I used to do Ibiza, Magaluf, all those kind of European destinations holidays, because the flights were cheap, the hotels were sort of cheap, but everything there was expensive.
Speaker 3:So like the food, so drink food, drinks going out all of that was expensive. So I wish that when I was younger I'd have come out here. But I think for a lot of people the flight time and the flight cost is a big off put he's just dancing over there while he's making drinks. I'm going to make the drinks in a minute.
Speaker 1:I'm going to die on this one you know, when it reminds me of something. So After Okay, when I was 22,. I will not elaborate more than that Me and my friend we went to Canada for about a year, something like that, and we spent so much money over there. In the first three months we spent, I think, each one of us $7,000.
Speaker 2:Where was it?
Speaker 1:Canada, canada.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Okay, and after we came back to Israel and everything, we thought to ourselves what kind of stupid people are we? And this is what we said back back then we could take this money, go to thailand instead, spend a year here, enjoy ourselves like and I'm talking like 2010, okay, 2020 11 cheaper.
Speaker 2:It was a way different exchange rate as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, right, and we spent so much money on nothing like on food and accommodation. That's it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's not that much fun for sure it was nice.
Speaker 1:Don't get me wrong, canada is an amazing country, but compared to here, you know what I mean. We never been here country. But compared to here, you know what I mean. We never been here. But when we came back, all our friends just came back from india and thailand because this is what normally normal guys do in that age and they said like, oh, you're so fucking stupid. Like they told us, in india, they, they spend like in a month, five hundred dollars and they, they live like kings.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, yeah, so that's how, like I was introduced to it by, like, older friends that had been doing it.
Speaker 1:Like Michelle older or that old, no, no.
Speaker 3:Only like two years older than him, but yeah, like older friends that had been doing it for like 15 to 20 years, so, but they probably started coming out at the age that I am now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, like our friend John, for example.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, that's how I was introduced to it. And again it was like look, flight's expensive but everything's dirt cheap when you get there. So, like I was saying with the flights, okay, if it was £600 for a flight out here, now it's £1,000. That £400 difference, you know that would be your accommodation here. Yeah, you know, if you think how much you pay per night here it's you know.
Speaker 1:When you get, even for a decent hotel, yeah, but I'm just saying for our listeners also, like some people come here, if it's for a short term, like one week or two weeks, I get it stay in a hotel. But if you stay more than that, just rent like a condo, airbnb or something like that. Yeah, because it's so much cheaper, so much like oh yeah, we pay. So we stay at the same condo, like same apartment building. Right now we pay like 7 000 baht a month, before electricity and water. Yeah, so it's nothing and the location is really good that you have. I like it. Yeah, I don't think you would like it, for example.
Speaker 2:No, but I liked it when I. That's why we're talking about people who want to come here and want to spend like a month or two months. So when I started living in Pattaya, I was living in Soi Bonkut 8 so this is exactly the same area and I stayed there one year. Why I stayed there? Because I have no clue about the city. So I know, of course, the walking street, I know Soi Bokau and I know everything around it, but I came back from Samui and I know the entire island, so it's not like rocket science, you know, After three months.
Speaker 2:You know almost every rock there.
Speaker 1:So that's why I want to have, but it's still a good location which is not too far from the city center.
Speaker 2:I not drive before, even I had the motorbike, so I walked down to the Soi Bokau from there. So then you get your proper knowledge. Then you find out with the 10-Bud pickup taxis what you can take from the Soi Bokau, the Bud Bus, what you can take down to the walking street. So then you figure it out. Okay, end of Soi Bokau is like this. Then you turn past McDonald's to come down there, the Tampa, so you get a small map already, yeah.
Speaker 2:So then I just extended and after a year I saw like, okay, so I'm going out so much, but I would like to live maybe a little bit more outside, a little bit more closer to the beach, because that was like the dream to living as close as possible on the beach when I was back then in Samui. But it was not affordable, right? So and then I was looking what kind of area is nice? And then I move here to Pratamnak because you know guys, it's not far. It's 10 minutes from where we're actually talking about, from your location, and it's 10 minutes from everything. It's 10 minutes from the walking street, it's 10 minutes from everything. It's 10 minutes from the walking street, is 10 minutes from sobocao to all the hot spots, but he is quiet and you have seen you. If you live in a condo a little bit above, higher, higher level, it's a good location.
Speaker 1:It's very quiet here. Like I was amazed last time we were here, when we were like waiting for the taxi to come pick us up no noise. He was scared yeah, you think I'm joking, but this is what I told him, like if I would have to live here, no noise. He was scared. Yeah, no, no, you think I'm joking, but this is what I told him Like if I would have to live here, it will be like too quiet for me, no, I like it, I like the contrast.
Speaker 2:So you go there, you have all this screaming, you have all this happiness, the craziness, what you're seeking for, but then I really like to have it as quiet as possible. Yeah, if I, if I, if I really want to, so, if I have, if I always can choose what I want, and it's easy, of course, if I get bored, yes, they're like, okay, let's, let's go out so we can go crazy. But then we have it. But then I have it exactly how long I?
Speaker 1:want it. Yeah, and I think, if I'm not mistaken, the the prices. For example, let's say, I want to take, from where I live, a motorbike to the city center and you want to take a motorbike to the city center. I think it's even the same price.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think there is no difference, it's marginal. It's like probably 10 bar difference or something like that.
Speaker 2:I remember when I took BOLT before. It's about from here to sorry. Lk is 40 baht. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it must be almost. Yeah, we pay like 25 or 30, depends on the hour.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you make like the exchange, it's like a little bit more than the euro. You know what I mean. So it's a little bit more than a euro. You know what I mean? It's nothing, yeah, it's nothing.
Speaker 1:I don't know. If you remember, have you ever been here before Bolt? Yeah, you've been here before they had Bolt? Yeah, it was so different. So back then they used to scam everyone.
Speaker 3:It was just the motorbike taxis.
Speaker 1:yeah, the guys with the orange vest, and it was so.
Speaker 2:You have the taxis and you have the motorbike taxis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean the motorbike taxis. They used to charge like whatever they want.
Speaker 2:So you always have to say in advance how much and you have to check on Google Maps actually how far it is, even if you have no clue, but if you have like an idea how much it is yeah, but I think the cheapest I ever paid back then was 60 baht the cheapest.
Speaker 1:So usually it was like 100 or whatever.
Speaker 1:And right like I told the story before, they scammed one of my friends, so we took this, we stayed also in the same place and we went from Soibokau to that place. I paid like 80 baht. They charge him 300 because they saw him like as a naive guy, you know, but this is crazy. Yeah, it's not that again, it's not that a lot of money, but like right now, when you have the Bolt app and not all the Bolt, you have Grab and whatever the prices are, so it's even too cheap sometimes, in my opinion.
Speaker 3:I try to give them tips Generally like, if it's a 25 bar ride, I'll just give them 40, because it's easier for me to get two 20s out than to like look for the fucking change in my wallet. So I'm just like, yeah, it's easier for me to get two 20s out than to look for the fucking change in my wallet. So I'm just like, yeah, it's okay, but I still tell people. When I was back home. So I flew out of Bangkok airport. I paid 1,200 baht for the taxi there, which is how much is that? 27, 28 pounds, something like that, for a two-hour journey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I landed, Michel, if you are already there, can I ask for a bit of a refill? Yeah, thank you. You keep slowly. Yeah, it's about 1,200 normally.
Speaker 3:So when I landed I actually got a bolt from the airport to my sister's where my car was, and it cost me about 70, 80 pounds for a 50-minute journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So less than half of driving from here to Bangkok and fucking you know like three times the price, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's just ridiculous. The taxis back home are so expensive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but in Samui they're still doing the scam. They're doing the scam there is no bolt in Samui. No, because the mafia, the mafia vault in some way. No because the the mafia.
Speaker 2:The mafia yeah, it's so small, you know what I mean. And it starts from the airport. So you have all the minivans or you have like you have like the private taxis that stand there and they overcharge you already. So they overcharge you like basically like 500 baht or something, and you still have to stop in every fucking hotel because you share the minivans, right, so there are at least like six, eight other people with you and then of course they go like the most common round. You know what I mean. But if you are like from the area where your hotel is, if you are screwed, so you'd be like one of the last, and then, because you fly already, you know, be like one of the last. And then the tix, because you fly already. You know what I mean. You just want to be quickly home and you pay already. That much you know.
Speaker 1:And you still be like in another hour on the on the way, right, because they have to stop everywhere I remember last time I was in phuket, in phuket they have bolt yeah, they have it because it's too big, yeah, and it was like very convenient yeah, the only thing, what you have to do in phuket is you have to walk out of the airport.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, but the airport, they have also a really huge parking lot right.
Speaker 2:So you, you have to carry your luggage whatever, but it's still one minute, yeah yeah, and then you're there, right, yeah, no, but but I did it, but I hear it already. So they say to me, me like the driver. Actually you know they can chat with you in the app. And then they told me like, yeah, can you walk outside the airport? And I was like, okay, no problem. But then I saw how far and I was like, okay, it's not that far, come on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but if you carry leggings, you know what I mean. Okay, it also met a friend there that he was already living there, so it was.
Speaker 2:He just said oh yeah, let's yeah, that's happening when I go back now to Samui, because all my friends are there, so they say to me oh, I picked you up, so it's nice, yeah, brother all his friends are there he didn't say all his friends, he said my friends.
Speaker 3:No, he said all my friends are there. Yeah, all my friends. You can watch it, Matt, Fuck you.
Speaker 1:No he has the musketeers and he has the other groups there. I don't know what. Do you call them the jellyfish?
Speaker 2:The jellyfish gang, because he was always so sweaty when we go out, everybody was dancing and then at the end so you couldn't, like you know, squeeze your shirt, because it was so hot all the time and if you drink too much, it was like I've never been there.
Speaker 1:You know that. I want to know the thing that I know that many people from my country like about that is all the the full moon parties and everything. Is that a scam?
Speaker 3:but that's Copenhagen, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, but you go with the speed no I think, in some way also they have that no they do they do the boat trip across to?
Speaker 2:yeah, so you can have like the slow ferry. It takes like 30 minutes or something, or you take like a speedball. Is it bullshit? I mean, the parties are good, of course, the parties, the FOMO party, I think. Like you have to see it in your life once because it's just like I don't know, it's like the entire thing. You know you're driving with a speedboat, miami Vice style in 15 minutes, in the middle of the night you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yes, man.
Speaker 2:Driving in the middle of the night, you know what I mean, yes, man driving in the middle of the night, so everybody is totally hyped up, you know what I mean. So you don't even can see where the driver go and you just still believe that he knows where he have to go. So and then in 15 minutes you are there. Everybody totally excited you to the beach, the exact beach, no, no, no, a little bit. You'll be on the beach, but on the side where they have okay pier. So then you pay like 100 baht entrance. It's not much, I don't remember it completely, but it's almost nothing. So then you enter and then you see already, like they have the body painting, that have like the color that's like glue in the dark. You know what I mean. Everybody start to paint.
Speaker 1:I remember I saw a picture of my cousin with a huge bucket yeah, like it was filled with alcohol.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is what they sell on the beach, also already on the way then there. So you see, like everybody gathering, but they have all the shops they're selling basically the same. So you have the ones who are doing the painting, then you have the one they sell you some silly shirts you know what I mean but everything like neon colors, whatsoever, and, but everything like neon colors whatsoever. And then you have the small bucket, like you get the small things from what is like a Thai rum, yeah, so you get it in a small bottle and then you get it in a small cleaning bucket, right, yeah, you get the ice and then with two red bowls. So this is the set, what they sell you for I don't know, 300 baht, 400 baht.
Speaker 2:But it depends, if you like $10 or whatsoever, but it's enough to get fucked up. Yeah, you need then more mixer, because it's too strong. Just imagine so you have the small Sangstom bottle and two cans of Red Bull. It's a little bit tough. That's why the people fuck up, because they don't know how to Before they have. No, they don't know how to deal with the Sangstom right, so it hits you harder than usual if you not drink rum before, right, and then if you have like it with mixer. It's so strong, you know it's really strong.
Speaker 1:One bucket and you'll have already all your life this is what my cousin told me Like he had just one bucket and he was fucked up. But I like what you said. So the other day when we were here, we watched an old movie that's called kevin and perry go large.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah, because this this motherfucker had never seen it in his whole life yeah, yeah, I have to see it, which is a great movie.
Speaker 1:It is a great movie. It was a great movie. And you, they're like the end scene there, that all of them like lying in groups on the beach and everyone have their own hole in the sand and they are fucking there and you said it's like reminded you of the moon, of the, the full moon parties.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you can see what you can really witness in the morning. Of course, not like like insane how they show it in this particular movie, but of course you're seeing. Come on, you have to see the combination, right. So you see the people. They are the first time there, so they're getting drunk from booze that they're not really know how to handle and of course there are a lot of drugs involved. You know what I mean. Yeah, so this kind of combination, so of course you see the result in the early hours, when the sun, yeah, so then you see them like each other laying down there having, you know, doing petting or whatsoever, but you see a lot of stuff. But the beach is quite huge, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you see it like Carpet is everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you see something going on over there. It's just like crazy.
Speaker 3:Did they have Germans there With the Germans, with the Germans in the denim? But I wasn't walking there.
Speaker 2:That was a big school. No one walked, it was a big school Back then he wasn't that big.
Speaker 3:No, they didn't walk past and go Germans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it was him and a bunch of Jews.
Speaker 2:And one Thai.
Speaker 3:Let's not go there.
Speaker 1:No, it's funny because back in Samui he was friends with the Israelis there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because this was actually the first people that I met who was really cool, really nice, and they actually stayed there. That was on holiday, and all the other people that I met that was just on holiday, right, but you have to explain to the listeners so we were still in a dory that you get in a fight in England. You know that you get hurt, but then you make it happen that you're not hurt yourself back in England. But you hurt yourself when you were back here in Thailand. Yeah, a few days ago back in England.
Speaker 1:But you hurt yourself when you were back here, in Thailand.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a few days ago. Yeah, just a few days here and already like no, I did hurt myself in England because I fell off a fucking horse. Yeah, but this was not like, but that wasn't really bad. So yeah, I used to do horse riding, I used to do motorcross.
Speaker 2:You're riding horse.
Speaker 3:Sometimes In your case guys, the horse is riding. You Define horse, look like horse Look like horse, no, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, you said horse.
Speaker 3:I heard horse Horse. I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.
Speaker 1:It's a terrible joke, sorry.
Speaker 3:No, that was good, that was good, that was good for you, mike? No, so yeah. So I fell off a horse in England, so that was good. And then, yeah, I did motocross here on Sunday.
Speaker 2:And I had already a bad feeling. Yeah, I had a bad feeling.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had a bad feeling in the morning. I was like I woke up and I was like, should I really do this? I think I'm going to hurt myself. I've never properly really hurt myself doing it. And then I was like you had the old gear right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like they provided everything, like it was really good, but it's very different doing it over here than the UK.
Speaker 1:By the way, if you want, you can give shout out to the guy if you know his name.
Speaker 3:It's a guy called Kev, it's Patea MX.
Speaker 2:Your Kev.
Speaker 3:But yeah, it's really good and the bikes, like really good bikes, really top quality, looked after everything.
Speaker 1:Which bike did you had, pardon, which bike did you had?
Speaker 3:So I had a KTM 250 four stroke Okay, which is a really good bike, and I will try to make some picture, kev. But no, like the whole, the whole year, the whole day, like the whole day. You just want your picture taken, not actually?
Speaker 1:do anything. He said to me also Mike, I know you don't know how to write, but we can go, we take pictures we look cool For the next Instagram story.
Speaker 3:I showed you the picture of me in the gear and you're like, yeah, that's fucking dope man.
Speaker 1:That's fucking sick. He didn't believe it was you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you had the helmet on and it looked so cool.
Speaker 3:I said like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to zoom in on my eyes and you were like, oh yeah, that's super cool.
Speaker 2:Then you showed me the eyes and I said, like that's you cunt.
Speaker 3:So yeah, but then I did a very fast corner and the bike went, and so did I, and I rolled about fucking 10 times.
Speaker 1:You still have your wounds. Fuck myself your open wounds.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, so I've got a nice new Thai tattoo.
Speaker 2:Yeah Off the dirt how you call that the tattoos. They say in Samui. We say in Samui tattoos, right, yeah, Samui tattoos. When someone falls off the bike, not someone tattoos right, yeah, some weird tattoos when someone falls off the not someone, basically like everyone on the fly back. You see, like everyone come with crutches or have something like a bandage, it's like so funny it's, it's, it's actually hilarious because of course everybody survived, you know but everybody, but yeah, it's uh, but this was on dirt, but the the thing is here.
Speaker 3:Like the tracks are so different, it's very hard and just like light sand on the top, because it's so dry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's so dry. How much you paid for the whole thing, just for our?
Speaker 3:listeners. So it was 4,000 baht for three hours and you smashed the entire bike.
Speaker 2:And the gear you smashed the gear you smashed the bike. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:But he was a nice guy. Someone else might. Yeah, no, he was. No, he was a very good guy.
Speaker 2:That's why I showed up. Shout out to Kev right, you are the man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Free picture. But no, you want to do, you want to do a scene with the stuff on.
Speaker 1:It's so funny. You have like a crazy bike here. Oh no, yeah, you have like the Ducati and you want to take pictures, but I don't have the gear. Oh, it's about the gear. Yes, it looks so professional. I have an idea he bought the horse riding gear.
Speaker 3:You can ride the Ducati with that. Okay, I can picture you, I don. Okay, I can picture you, I know it will look cool. You will look like English gentlemen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with a helmet like a scooter. You know what I mean. So you're riding a horse or you're riding a motorbike.
Speaker 3:No, we said, though, as the three musketeers one day I will ride a horse down Soi Chaiput. It's on my bucket list of things to do.
Speaker 2:So you're creating the new potholes then?
Speaker 3:No new bolt when the horse bolt, oh man.
Speaker 1:You will get so much attention.
Speaker 3:Imagine.
Speaker 2:I know, I think he and his horse get arrested, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I think you can ride animals.
Speaker 2:I mean mean I also need no signs, no horses, but yeah, well, that would be my argument.
Speaker 3:I don't see a horse saying no horses.
Speaker 1:See a sign saying no horses, yeah you can park it outside of the lirius yeah, like a western, just fucking just tie the horse up.
Speaker 2:We can address one serious thing that's actually happened to us when, when you was back from England and we thought like everything in Soi Bokau is as it should be right now, so, and then all of us had like a partner for the night, so we were settled. We were too lazy to go to the walking street. And we say like, so we were settled, we were too lazy to go to the walking street and we said, okay, this is always when we have this kind of mindset or we don't want to have the hustle driving to the walking street.
Speaker 2:Let's go to Juju.
Speaker 1:And we just heard that the week before they started letting everyone in again.
Speaker 2:This was the rumors that I don't believe it's played away. I say to you now I don't believe it. Yeah, you know, because I don't know. I just don't feel that way because I'm not hearing from anyone else.
Speaker 1:They didn't let us inside because our companions yeah, but this is what's so weird, right?
Speaker 2:They say like straight away, before they even they were personal.
Speaker 1:You know, michelle, we are like straight away before they even they even they were personal. You know, michel, we are so sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, michel yeah what happened, michel, is important. What the fuck.
Speaker 3:I know I could have snuck mine in. Fuck you, michel.
Speaker 2:I'm getting it, they only said your name no, but I felt like you know it's like a situation now we're laughing about it, but actually I name no. But I felt like you know it's like a situation now we're laughing about it, but actually I always think like how the ladyboys actually feel, because we always look for the right situation the right spot, you know.
Speaker 1:You took your motorbike afterwards and you went to Walking Street to meet us there. We took the bolt bus.
Speaker 3:The bolt bus yeah the bolt bus to the Walking. No, the bolt bus.
Speaker 1:The bolt bus to the walking street and one of the lady boys that were with us. She started crying. We said what's what's wrong and she said like wow, it's really like hurt me, like what, what we haven't done anything wrong. Like why they don't let us inside.
Speaker 2:The argument was actually the same. Because we say of course we don't make like a big argument with them, but of course we want to know what's going on, why the change? Because usually it's like, okay, they're not allowed to come inside alone, but now they come with us. We have only three. It's three of us, so one plus one. So what's going on? And then they say like, yeah, we have so many issues in the past recently. They're always causing like problems.
Speaker 1:And I know for a fact. And again, they don't speak about the people that were with us, the ladyboys that were with us, speaking in general, ladyboys are bad. It's such a bullshit.
Speaker 2:It was complete bullshit, because a week ago, yeah, I was there with with a lady boy and and every lady boy that I go inside with you know what I mean and she's always the only lady boy then, because there are no other lady boys and nobody take a lady boy, so when this stress would be happening, you know what I mean. But I had like a theory, and the theory has actually to do with this podcast, because in the past, yeah, we were talking about when they make the changes and we were totally disagreeing with it.
Speaker 1:But after that I made another podcast you remember, yes, which I actually said listen, guys, like we a bit lied to you because we do go to juju sometimes but it's not like our favorite place because the way they act.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So the only reason what comes to my mind is maybe they listen to this podcast and they're saying like, okay, they're not really talking good about us, they're not making like give us like a good shout out whatsoever. It could be because Mike is quite famous, especially in Pattaya.
Speaker 3:We are famous.
Speaker 2:Come on, so not underplayed it's the group.
Speaker 1:it's the group, Not only me.
Speaker 2:So because it comes out of nowhere, so it's like really, and we're still in the low season, so I don't understand it. Because you have six people, so you will have a bill from us, I don't know, just say between 3,000 to 6,000. Let's say each one pay at least 1,000. Yes, so you know we have something, and we're talking about the low season, and we're talking about Sobhagau. Everybody is a little bit cheap, charlie, and so on. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean you might be right. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I still think because I heard it from two people that the week before that they already start letting everyone in without even like having a customer. I think something happened. Now there is a stigma against ladyboys here about the drug use.
Speaker 2:Some of it is actually right, unfortunately that many of the ladyboys do do drugs. I think it's not only the ladyboys in particular.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the ladyboys are more how would they say, Open about that? I think the ladies, but not in the club. I know some ladyboys, which I will not say who and I will not say in which club that just every time they are there they go to the toilet and they do what they go to the toilet and they do drugs in the toilet.
Speaker 3:I'm not your fucking slave no, he helps you.
Speaker 1:You fucking asshole.
Speaker 3:I'm saying from Kevin and Perry.
Speaker 1:I'm not your fucking slave.
Speaker 2:I'm not your slave man no, it's actually your turn, so I made it Mine cannot go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can, but it's not nice. You have a good excuse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we switch it between the.
Speaker 1:So, as I said before, I know many lady not many, but some ladyboys that when even they went with us to the clubs, they disappeared for the toilet and then they came back and you know they were high.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the ladies doing the same in the club.
Speaker 1:Maybe I not noticed that.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm sure you don't notice it because you're not paying attention to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and also I'm kind of like trying to ignore it because of my history yeah, of course, I understand it, but it's basically it's like it's.
Speaker 2:It's it started from, from Samui and in Pattaya city. It's not any difference. So the people it's.
Speaker 1:I think in Pattaya it's even more yeah, of course, because it's like.
Speaker 2:I think in Pattaya it's even more. Yeah, of course, because it's a city. It's a bigger city. Right, this is a small island, it's a bigger city. But it's just like. It's like to the lifestyle. You know, they're working in the bars like seven days a week. They need to drink whatsoever and then they're going out. They still want to have a good time.
Speaker 1:Most of them are super young. That's interesting. Do you think, like I know, it's like not an information we can realistically get, but do you think, like there are the numbers of ladyboys and ladies that doing drugs is like equal? You think like I mean percentage wise. Let's say, 60 of the ladyboys are doing drugs you think it's 60 of the ladies.
Speaker 2:So many ladyboys here than women, right?
Speaker 1:no, this is what I say percentage. 60 of the ladyboys, let's say, are doing drugs. Do you think the 60 of the ladies are doing drugs also? So it doesn't matter how many they are, we are talking percentage wise.
Speaker 2:Yes but I see the difference in who is really addicted to it. So in there, I think the numbers are lower. When we're talking about the woman, at least they don't do it so frequently. This is just my feeling. For it, okay, but there is no proof, so maybe it's still bullshit. I'm saying so thick, no, no, it's just how I feel it. But it's just an opinion, but it has no proof.
Speaker 1:It has nothing, I think also because we, most of the time, we stay in ladyboy bars, I think we can see more the effect on them. As you say, some of them get extra skinny, like bad skin or whatever. We are talking obviously about certain drugs, not all of them. And when you are saying drugs, we are not talking about weed and stuff like that. We are talking about the heavy stuff that they take it and it does like thank you, man, you see, you see it on their skin, you see it like we all we had this conversation today. We will not name her, but some of the one ladyboy that we know, like she got really skinny lately and like even the other ladyboys like suspect, like she's doing a lot of drugs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think what we also hear a lot of times is like it comes, it's kind of like a circle, and a circle is like this it's like the job, and then they have also even they want to stop. So it's like the circle, because the money, what they make, is not, especially now. Especially now it's not enough to stay alone. So they have to say, uh, I have to have roommates to share the room some of them even leave five people in the room.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we know that and, and we're talking not about the big room, we're talking about the studio. Yeah, uh, 35 square meters, or even less, that's a big room. Yeah, yeah, like that's what I say, that's a big one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I say, oh yeah, so it's actually a really sad situation, so that one of them, or like all of them doing it, and then like one, wants to stop and then the other one if you be in this environment, it's hard to doing it, and then even you fight, you find your strength and you fight yourself through. Then you go and of course, you need to make money and then you have a customer. They pay you extra to doing it. We hear it many times. You know what I mean. So this is like that's why I say that the entire cycle is just like really toxic and it's like I feel like bad for them, because I know it's not an easy choice and it's not an easy way out to doing it, you know.
Speaker 3:I think it's bad when the customers are expecting them to do that, like asking them actively.
Speaker 1:If you come with me, I want you to do drugs with me do this with me, but want you to do drugs with me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do this with me but for you it's so often. I feel it's fucking terrible.
Speaker 1:It is terrible yeah, but you do. I'm not saying it's the same thing, but let's say you're going with a ladyboy to a party to flex for, for example, you expect her to drink.
Speaker 3:No, I'd say you don't expect her to drink. Do you want a drink? Yeah, but if we have a battle.
Speaker 1:You would give her a drink. I would ask first.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying you're forcing it, no, no, I would say, like what mixer you want?
Speaker 3:And if she say to me I don't drink, then I would say like okay, party pooper Okay wait, but even saying that, even saying that it would make him feel pressure to drink. No, but he would never say that.
Speaker 1:But I think I would say party pooper. He called us party pooper, but I think what I think.
Speaker 3:What you mean is you're not okay, say you barfing a girl and you want to take her to a club with you.
Speaker 2:I barf her, and how else she barfing me?
Speaker 3:Okay, but you're not saying okay. I'll give you an extra 500, an extra thousand baht To drink and get pissed out of your fucking face with me To drink with me To drink and get pissed out of your fucking face with me, you're right.
Speaker 2:A long time, for example, we went to Juju and she was like fucked up. And then they say like water, water, water. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's like look, if you want to come to a club with us and you want to drink, like, do you want to drink? If no, okay don't. I'm sure we had one the other day and she didn't want to drink. I kept saying do you want?
Speaker 2:to drink. No, that's fine.
Speaker 3:I kept saying that that makes me sound like I'm forcing it. But no, it's like are you sure? Are you sure you don't want to drink? No, I'm okay, that's fine. That's not paying someone to. If I pay you extra, you have to drink all fucking all night with me, which is what these people are doing by saying I'll pay you extra to do drugs with me and it's like listen if they pay I'm not telling you, you know, everyone knows who we are talking about If they even pay them after giving them drugs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, because that's the thing, because, like, if you're addicted to something, then you know a hit of it, then you'll take that overpayment.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:To get that fix of something.
Speaker 2:On the other side. I can also say something about the work that I'm doing. So it's like when I plan a shooting and there's also quite a percentage number from models that come and I can see from the eyes.
Speaker 1:So they have like wet eyes so and I can see like that they're actually high and I always think, like you tell me another example that they go to the toilet very frequently and you know what they do in the toilet. Yeah, this was like one specific case.
Speaker 2:So this is not like the normal case, right, but it's like you have a few moments that you notice that something is odd, and also from the entire behavior. And then, of course, you think like, come on, how many times in your life do you have a shooting? You know what I mean? Yeah, so do you really need to have it on this particular day? Yeah, do you not really think it's like the outcome and the paranoia that you would have because you are high right now, now pointing like four cameras of you? Are you really think that this kind of environment is the right thing to come here?
Speaker 1:how do you? They look at it differently. They look at I will not be able to perform if I'm not high. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not perform sexually, perform in general, because in addicted person mind, this is the fuel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then you know that you're dealing with someone who is addicted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but for me it's like I'm glad it's not so depressing for our listeners, but it's very important. I think it's very important to talk about it.
Speaker 2:No, but your podcast is not me saying something nice when it's not. We're saying something. That's true. It doesn't matter what.
Speaker 1:Of course we're not sugarcoating it. Yeah, I'm not saying that we should not talk about it. I'm just saying like I think it's very important that we do yeah and we're living here, and we're living here not on the short term.
Speaker 2:We're living here so long and everybody is so deep into this kind of society that we just share it and we share it honestly. We share it in our opinion. So maybe something sometimes there is a gray zone, sometimes there are like different exceptions or whatsoever, but this is our own experience and we're just sharing it. But I don't I don't really see it as like depressive or negative way. It's just the way it is the reality, it's the reality.
Speaker 2:It's the reality. It's just the way it is and you have to. It not means like that you have to start to take drugs. Not at all, actually. We are against that. So, yeah, you just have to a good time and you have to figure it out your way to be happiness in all this craziness, what is around you. You cannot take care of all the other ones.
Speaker 1:If you find a specific person that you take care of, that you want to take care of and it's on both sides You're talking to me and Scott which we are doing stupid stuff of taking care of people that we shouldn't.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not being you guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but maybe not.
Speaker 3:No, but we are.
Speaker 1:I just give an example. Do you remember? I will not say her name, but her name is um, sound like loco, okay. Which came to me, called me one day and say someone want to kill me, can, can I come over? I say okay, and she just went over. She was completely high. She was hiding under the sink in the toilet for two hours to be fair, fair.
Speaker 3:When I stayed with Mike, I did the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for different reasons.
Speaker 3:Is it over, man? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you're trying to do it seriously.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not serious. It's not serious. I'm just saying it's happened that they come like already, so like in a bad place mentally that they hallucinate things. They show that people want to kill them. They hide under the toilet because they think it will save them. When I locked the door, she put the chair against the door the wrong way, like you can still open the door.
Speaker 3:But in her mind no one would be able to come Upside down. No, like normally, you have to pledge it against her.
Speaker 1:You know, she just put it against.
Speaker 3:You know she saw it in the movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm not going to say that I saw how high she was, but the will was there. I saw how high she was, so I just ignored her and I went to sleep. And then I woke up after two hours from the smell of her doing drugs again and I was like hey, loco, what the fuck are you doing? Like you cannot do that here? Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, you know, it happens sometimes no, and this is exactly what I what I pointing out. So we are so deep into the society and we just try to sharing it. Yeah, but you also have to, and we found it, and everybody who even makes you like longer holiday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you said to refound it. No, we found it. Oh, we found it. We found the way between all the craziness, to, to, to, to, going around and find our own happiness. But everybody have like their their own definition of, of of what is, uh, what is happiness?
Speaker 1:you know what I mean yes, but there is another thing that we haven't spoke about in the podcast yet, but we spoke between us. That's why we are here, but it's something that I think some of the guys that will hear that will say we are bullshit or we are delusional about that, but we actually try to be the good guys. We spoke about it because there are so many guys that take advantage not only of the ladyboys.
Speaker 2:Come on, even the story the story that you just told is the best example that at least you are the good guy. Someone called you that you know. Yeah, she says After we haven't spoke for a while yes, so she's paranoid. The first thing what you offer to her, without even thinking about sex, no, yeah, but this is what mainly normally happen here. So everybody have their own advantage. Oh, okay, so maybe I don't need to pay her whatsoever. So your thing was like hey, take care of her, see what is her state of mind. So if someone says, oh yeah, we just try to be delusional or whatsoever, it's okay, it's okay. The word on the streets speaks for ourselves. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Mean, that's always what I say this is also something that connected us that we do want to, to be different to them, to the walking girls and ladyboys in general no, we want to see the person that that that is still there and doing, yeah, doing what they're doing.
Speaker 3:So that's it I think I said this the first time that I did a podcast with you. Like I'm not the, I never go short time. I can't go short time, I always go long time. It take me long time.
Speaker 1:I'm not a short time, no, but.
Speaker 3:I can't go short time because I like to.
Speaker 1:Fuck you. I just explained to the listeners first. There are two terms in here, which means short times and long time. Short time basically means like a short session you come quick. A short session with her, it's normally cheaper and a long time is like a whole nighter Normally.
Speaker 3:Yeah, go on. Sorry, but all nighter is never all nighter.
Speaker 1:it's from 7am until whenever the fuck they wake up sometimes they want to stay even after maybe even 2 months sometimes that was a real long time this is called home had a lease agreement and everything.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, I like to go long time because I like to you know we sit, we talk.
Speaker 1:Eat something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we get some food. We talk for a bit.
Speaker 1:Watch Lockstock and Two Smoking Barrels together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was one I didn't. But yeah, watch some netflix, chill for a bit like, okay, we might fuck, then we might fuck later we might fucking we might not fuck we might fuck in the have to think mike, but anyway, but I'm, I'm never like okay, get in the door right, get on the bed, get naked, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fuck you right now. It's like no, let's have, like, let's be friends, please love me.
Speaker 1:No, no but like it's, you are joking, but it's, it's actually for the connection also yeah, yeah, no, it's better.
Speaker 3:Like I think I said to you before, I love them. I'll be like okay, listen, I'll give you a massage, whatever. Because I remember you said you're like go with scotch free massage straight away like so. But yeah, you try to promote and like you know you need to make money somehow. I'm still learning, but yeah, he needs a body he needs a body. He needs a body so boss, he just did it on super wings he needed he needed a real body, a breathing body. I'm just using mannequins out of like store windows.
Speaker 1:I like that, I like, I like that. He just added a breathing buddy. No, we're not talking about a dead person. A breathing buddy.
Speaker 3:I'm banned from the morgue. Now they won't let me in.
Speaker 1:We just discussed all this today.
Speaker 2:Do you want to open a massage shop that we are on the?
Speaker 1:way to get banned as a joke, but like get banned, or at least not very welcome to most of the bars that we're going to.
Speaker 2:I disagree. It's not happening. It's kind of as long as there's a low seal.
Speaker 3:High season. High season. It will be like wanted posters that are alive.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I will say something that is actually connected to that, but it's also connected to the thing that we said before. Pattaya is a big city, but rumor-wise it's a very small city. That's why I say ask the street.
Speaker 2:It's a very small city. Yeah, that's why I say ask the street, and this is why I say we almost got banned from other bars for bullshit.
Speaker 2:For bullshit. But this is the sweet thing because it is so small, because people everyone know everyone no, because people like to put rumors out. It's also kind of easy that the rumors get debunked and you not even have to do a shit, because if the rumors are so stupid, they get debunked just because our listeners will take our example of how to understand exactly what you're saying, and it's a good example, because this is exactly what happened to us and we will not elaborate on that.
Speaker 1:It's bullshit. It's not interesting Because everyone sometimes reach there. You know, yeah, and and we are known, yes, and we are also known, as you mentioned many, many times as well, not that, oh, we are spending so much. I'm just saying that it will hurt the whole.
Speaker 2:I don't know, you can't say it like, don't do it, but people who see ladyboys as a fetish. I think this is not the right approach and you still have to see kind of the human being who is actually behind it. So we're seeing the human being who is working in the bar. So you have guys. Yes, we try to be friendly with everyone Guys who like girls and they go in the bar and they treat the girls like it's, like a product that they buy in a supermarket so you have to do like I own you.
Speaker 2:Now you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I don't care about your fucking feelings whatsoever. This is the worst thing that you can do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we're talking about human being and this is something that makes me furious that makes me angry.
Speaker 1:It's not the way how my life is going on and obviously I don't know if you guys have the fetish with ladyboys.
Speaker 2:I don't know I can change your mind or whatsoever, but guy, it's like completely disrespect this is how we do it, of course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Full instinct. It's like against the person and it doesn't hurt them whatsoever.
Speaker 3:I just think it's like the wrong approach For some reason.
Speaker 1:yeah, he took off the mic. Why you not take the mic to the toilet? I mean we spoke about it earlier today. Yeah, you also what I'm trying to say in general and again.
Speaker 3:I know I'm repeating the same thing, but I really wish that our listeners will take our example of how to be worked.
Speaker 1:when you are here, Be respectful, try to have fun don't take advantage of people when they are in like a low place, because everyone sometimes reach them, you know, and just enjoy yourself and be nice to everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah and then, it wasn't a fetish anymore. It was like oh it's a person that I like to spend time with.
Speaker 3:I get a feeling, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I said so yes, it can go also the wrong way.
Speaker 1:Yes, Especially when you come from England.
Speaker 2:Okay, I take the mic with me, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I was going to almost say the opposite of Michelle, because it's it can start as a fetish and the big thing here is never try, never know. So, yeah, so it's all never try, never know. But for me it was a bit of a fetish first, because in the UK it's not as prevalent as it is here. So the first time I came here, yeah, I did go with a ladyboy, but I still treated her like a person. I wasn't like get on the bed, get on the bed, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna fuck you ladyboy like you must say something about that so I wasn't like that, but I think this is something we spoke about.
Speaker 3:It can start off as a fetish and then maybe that's what you truly like at the beginning and, like you said, the one that I spent quite a bit of time with, I met fetish for you at the beginning and, like you said, the one that I spent quite a bit of time with, I met experience yeah well, no you also said today that at the beginning it was kind of a fetish for you, yeah, on a deeper level.
Speaker 1:But once you get to know them and you actually like we will not name him. But yeah, you actually spend a month and a half with one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, wait can we make a shot? Right, we went to some way to get there and yeah and like then it wasn't a fetish anymore.
Speaker 1:It was like oh, it's a person that I like.
Speaker 2:If this time we have four minutes, so what the fuck yeah?
Speaker 1:that's true.
Speaker 2:Too much feeling.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's both working, but I don't like what the fuck, just an hour of looking at Mike, and I was just talking in the background.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would be so bad. Okay, it was so funny yeah.
Speaker 1:So we had a technical problem. We hope it will come out okay.
Speaker 2:No, it's perfect yeah yeah, yeah, if you unmute me when.
Speaker 1:I was on toilet. Everything is good.
Speaker 3:I will actually make it even louder. So are we going again now? Are we going again?
Speaker 2:Yeah, First, first, first. Before we're going, you guys need to finish the glasses, because I'm only one time in the kitchen doing the real shit.
Speaker 1:Almost finished. It's enough. The refill.
Speaker 2:Tastes so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we were talking about bitches.
Speaker 3:Bitches, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we were talking about bitches, Bitches yeah, no, so yeah, we are so respectful for them, bitches, yeah we are the nice guys Fucking bitches, fucking bitches all the time.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, so what I was saying was, yeah, I'd been with Ladyboys before and no, I wasn't just like as a fetish, come on, I'm going to fuck you Ladyboy. But so the one that I actually spent a lot of time with, I met in February and then I carried on talking to her for about two months, Okay, back home every day, and there was definitely a connection, and then I was kind of falling for her in this great, in this great big love story your voice get even higher can't get much higher, but so yeah, and then we spent some time here and for me that was like a a big thing.
Speaker 3:Like I said to you today, it was almost like I was coming out, like as if uh coming out of the closet as a yeah, yeah, it's exactly what he meant. It's like a ladyboy lover, but like yeah, the yeah. It was like how I imagine a gay person would come out. Now you can call me gay if you want. I don't consider myself gay, but guys but yeah.
Speaker 3:But yeah, just sucking cock occasionally cunt, but but yeah you're just sucking cock occasionally yes, that's not gay, it's come in handy if I ever in prison actually, you're right, if we're ever in prison, the three of us not together, but we'll be sound, like we'll be okay, but anyway. So it was, yeah, like me kind of coming out and like Not together, but we'll be sound, we'll be okay, but anyway. So it was, yeah, like me kind of coming out and actually having to say no, you know what, regardless of whether they're a lady boy or a lady like I, like this person enough that I don't know I could actually be with this person Spend time with her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, actually be in a relationship with her, so that was like a big thing. And then she fucking crushed my heart, yeah.
Speaker 2:Did it even help you to try to give props to make her understand what you actually did? Yeah, yeah, I know she was the reason. Yeah, why can't you like the typical Thai story when some foreigner tried to start to living in thailand?
Speaker 1:yeah, but I must say. I must say because you're falling in love after last time that you had your payback yeah I like that I think it was like I, I almost never call anyone bitch, but in my opinion she was a bitch, and I kept on telling that we're still talking about human beings, and even the like lady voice that not means all the lady voice are nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a fact you can still have cunts you can meet an asshole like a guy.
Speaker 3:She might not have a cunt, but she is a cunt.
Speaker 1:No, but this is it right, yeah, but we are talking about a certain person which broke our brother's heart.
Speaker 3:But anyway, I think the main point that you were trying to get at is like it can start as a fetish. So for me it started as a fetish. So for me it started as a fetish, like something new that I wanted to try and have a go at. Have a go like you know, I'll try playing golf like. I'll try fucking ladyboys.
Speaker 1:Let's give it a go it's like do you remember I'm sorry, fucking ladyboys? Okay, let's give it a go, holy one. It's like do you remember the way our Ukrainian guy Ukrainian friend told us about his experience with ladyboy? Yeah, oh, yeah. So you know who I'm talking about our Ukrainian friend. He went with us to KU once.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The one-eyed guy. I will not say his name because I don't know, if he was One-eyed guy. One-eyed guy, he has one eye that is walking the other one is fucked.
Speaker 3:Well, he did have two, yeah, but one is fucked, one didn't work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, he was a very nice guy. I have nothing against him. Shout out to you. Yeah, we will not say your name, we will not expose you here, but he said like he was one time like in his room late night, drunk he wanted to fuck in general. He went out and then he saw a girl next to the subway and he said oh, that's good, that's the lady.
Speaker 3:They called her.
Speaker 1:So he didn't know that, right, so he brought one in and then she took off the clothes and she was naked. Wait, come on. You know what, you might be right. You know what, I will keep up the joke. And when she took off her clothes he saw her one hide monster, okay. And then he said like oh, you're a ladyboy that was dark to you.
Speaker 3:You never do the dark jokes only against Jews.
Speaker 2:I can say this is not true. I love you guys.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Samoy just stop controlling the banks, guys, I'm fine crypto. So he was just saying, like she got naked, just stop controlling the banks, guys, and find crypto. So he was just saying, like she got naked. He saw a cock. He was oh my god, you're a ladyboy. She said, oh, you are fine with that. He said no, but like okay, then he just sucked her cock. Oh, he sucked her cock. Yeah, really yeah. That's what he said the first thing he did okay, she's already in my womb.
Speaker 3:First in yeah, Fuck me, that's like that's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's another story I must say that the second time he was with the lady boy it was with Nong Mo.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And Nong Mo is more top.
Speaker 3:That's like a crash course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's like a crash course. Yeah, you have a long, long time like sparring with your partner no it's like me sparring you and then going to Mike Tyson.
Speaker 3:Okay, I've done, I've done a few rounds of Mike right, tyson, let's fucking go. You're talking about Mike Tyson this prior right, yeah, yeah totally good.
Speaker 1:I think even now I think he'd still we're talking about Mike Tyson is prime right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, on crime fingers crossed.
Speaker 1:Which way do you do?
Speaker 2:that birthday? Who knows?
Speaker 1:it's a long birthday it's not mine.
Speaker 3:There's no birthdays left, only Jesus. Jesus shout out only Jesus call, make it happen, only Jesus birthday, and he doesn't believe in that he just suggested for Jesus to go call log. I don't know if you should do that. You tried already three, four times to make it happen. You know what.
Speaker 2:I mean not with Jesus no, not with Jesus, with no more. But this is, and so we are so desperate, so we're calling out Jesus birthday.
Speaker 1:Oh, I get it, she might she might, she might show up, but like, yeah, he went like from oh first experience to none more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like that is, that is a crash course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is like you're even scared of her and you haven't been with her yet.
Speaker 3:No, I like her, but it terrifies me. Fantastic, I like her, but she terrifies me, no they're fantastic.
Speaker 2:You should try it.
Speaker 3:No, I don't. Yes, you should give it a spin, will For a test drive? I'll take the keys back. No, I don't like it. I don't have any keys.
Speaker 2:I don't want to sit between them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we hope we can bring her. I think we should cut this episode short now because we already have like one hour 20 something minutes. I want to say that for Scott, we are going to do an episode soon Again, financial based episode Without me please. Why? You have nothing to add in that subject.
Speaker 2:No, I have no financials. I have no clue what I'm doing with my financials. That's good, that's good.
Speaker 3:You can come and ask questions.
Speaker 2:I need an advisor, well.
Speaker 3:For finance or life. I take care of your life. You take care of my finance.
Speaker 1:So it will be probably sometime in the upcoming weeks. We will try to arrange it. We will have John from the Memorial for Mini episode. You never saw him, guys, but he will be on also and you can enjoy his beautiful hair. Yeah, his lush lashes. How do you say that not lashes? Yeah, lashes hair. Yeah, he's lush, luscious. How do you say that Not luscious? Yeah, luscious, luscious hair. Yeah, yeah, blowing in the wind. It's funny that you joke about him and then at the end of the day, like you know, he's just such a nice guy it's not fair towards him.
Speaker 2:He's a legend. John, you are a fucking legend.
Speaker 3:No, I like John I like John, everyone likes John.
Speaker 1:I love John, so we will have an episode with you and John. We are planning also to have an episode with you and Bonnie. Yeah, bonnie is your camera operator. More than that okay, she's much more than that, I know.
Speaker 3:But she's a smooth operator as well smooth yeah, we are very like musical today.
Speaker 1:I like it, but we will spare you guys from that experience.
Speaker 2:Yes, believe us, if you want to come, you have to come and see us live.
Speaker 1:So this is what we planned. So your episode with Bonnie, your episode with John, and we have also many things planned. Thank you, michel, for having this podcast here today.
Speaker 2:You saved the day. More than welcome, Laura.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I believe that next time we will be back to the normal studio, hopefully, scott. Anything you want to add? No, michel.
Speaker 3:Nothing.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:No, no, thank you, it's been a pleasure. It's been good, it's been good to do. No one like you. It's always Sorry why I say the truth. I always come out, tell the truth, pour my heart out about how the ladyboys I try and I try and I'm a nice guy and I massage them and I take them on holiday and they still fucking shaft me and I pay them to shaft me.
Speaker 2:Ladyboys hotel, the ones who still have a heart.
Speaker 1:You know, it's's like I don't think any of them watch it you will be surprised, really, yes, you will be surprised after mike sent him the link I know because think about this on the loop in the bars in my bar especially think about it like this that many of the our guests normally post it also on their social media. So I get like and, for example, I would my twitter mostly ladyboys like in my twitter, mostly ladyboys like follow me. I don't know why really ladyboys like follow me. I don't know why Really ladyboys In the street or Twitter, you know what?
Speaker 2:the Twitter is it's.
Speaker 1:X, now X.
Speaker 2:X, you not get the update from Elon Musk.
Speaker 3:I do, but I Did he not email you, mike, I just call him and say, like, make the next.
Speaker 1:Everyone we mentioned, you give shout out out. You don't want to give shout out to Elon Musk.
Speaker 2:I know you not support your daughter, who is actually a female, a lady boy. Shame on you. She living now with two, three roommates and say you not support her shit, okay, you have no political and say you not support her as shit.
Speaker 3:Okay, you have to. Don't be so political. No, no, no. This went dark really quick.
Speaker 2:Elon Musk and Donald while you're there I get my point, elon Musk visit us in Thailand and we show you around some bars and maybe you will get the advantage of what it means to be to stay with a ladyboy.
Speaker 3:Maybe you will sing about this with your daughter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's weird on all levels, because you just said you just said it sounds like he can have an older ladyboy like a milf ladyboy, not like daughter age ladyboy. Why would it make good connection?
Speaker 1:with his daughter Because he finds a ladyboy like a milf ladyboy, not like daughter age ladyboy. Why would it make good connection with his daughter? Because he fucked a ladyboy.
Speaker 2:Accepted, he would say oh my god, she's so hot, I have feelings for it. Oh, it's a human being. That's the whole fucking thing. Why you be always so sexual.
Speaker 3:And so nobody would be proud of like this.
Speaker 2:I would say, elon Musk, come with us to a bath, play a little bit of pool.
Speaker 3:Elon Musk. Come to Pattaya. He comes all of a sudden to a bath. He fucks a ladyboy and he goes back to his daughter and not be ashamed of it. I fuck a ladyboy. Now Be proud of it. Everything's okay. I accept all of it. I accept all of it's fine. Here's my billions.
Speaker 2:Not the billions A million would be fine.
Speaker 1:I'm sure she had more than a million she had nothing. I don't know, we don't know. Elon Musk, if you're coming to power.
Speaker 2:He's gone way off on the tangent. Now Go to them and ask her about her financial situation. Is it just rumors or is it?
Speaker 3:true and if she needs a financial aid.
Speaker 2:This is a good question.
Speaker 1:Can she be on the podcast Because it's 18 up?
Speaker 2:No, yeah, she's like 23, 24. She's living alone with roommates.
Speaker 1:So, if you listen to the podcast, send us a message. Who Elon Musk's daughter?
Speaker 3:Yeah. That would be a great next episode. I think she is If she needs a financial advisor as well.
Speaker 1:You know I mean more than Financial advisor, more than obliged, not just someone that will see her more than a fetish. You're not going there.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, okay, no you were thinking no, no no, that's a unique fetish. That is to be to have a fetish about Elon. Musk's transgender daughter to be her financial advisor.
Speaker 2:That's a fetish at a whole new level. So it's crazy when I hear the story how many does he got 16 or 17? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with the soft players.
Speaker 1:He have like kids with everyone that he meets and they want to have kids with him because, yeah, yeah, I'll have kids with him, okay. In the next episode, we will explain to Scott why he cannot have kids with okay. In the next episode, we will explain to Scott why he cannot have kids it's not possible to have kids anyway.
Speaker 3:Many people give me baby.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 3:No one likes you you're such a fucking cunt okay guys, no one likes you.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much for being on the podcast.
Speaker 2:I love you both.
Speaker 1:I love you brothers. I love my musketeers and thank you for our listeners. Now I want to say something that is very important. Wait, Okay, cheers first.
Speaker 2:No, I want to say you say it first. No, no, it's like the ending. Yeah, I know this will be the ending. Yeah, I know this will be the ending. We only say what we say, without the things that we don't have to say.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I know I say that many times like offhand and stuff like that, but we really need your support, we really need your help in order for us to be able to pay for the studio that we pay for. It's very expensive and everything, every dollar, you donate to us, is going straight to that. We are not making any money personally out of it, it's just for keeping this podcast running. So I really appreciate if you go to our Patreon or our Buzzsprout channel or whatever. There are many options how to help us financially to make this podcast running Viable Viable, thank you. Thank you, my English friend. I do like you. I was joking before. So if you can, please do that, it's a big help. And if not, even like and subscribe is a big help for us. Thank you very much. Yes, michel.
Speaker 2:I think that is the perfect closing end. So if I say one for all, we say the one. This is your camera, the one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was looking. You're saying it wrong already.
Speaker 2:All for one, yeah, but we say one for all because the one we're talking about is Mike. One for all, all for one.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's the other way around. No, but he wants to give a shout out to me. Okay, and you fuck it up, cheers guys.
Speaker 2:One for all, all for one, cheers.
Speaker 1:Thank you guys, See you next week.
Speaker 2:Bye-bye.
Speaker 3:That was so much fun. Oh, fuck you cunts. I hate you all. Keep dancing keep dancing.