My Thai Wife

Gold-Digging, hustling, and Getting Paid. by Koi Pattaya’s Sexiest Ladyboy

• My Thai Wife • Season 2 • Episode 22

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Ever paid for a Affection in Pattaya and wondered what it really costs?


 In this unfiltered, no-bullsh*t episode of My Thai Wife Podcast, Mike sits down with Koi, the sexiest ladyboy in Thailand’s wildest city, for a conversation that’s equal parts seductive, shocking, and soul-baring. If you’ve ever walked down Soi 6 and thought you understood the game—think again.

Koi has spent nearly a decade navigating the neon-lit jungle of Pattaya’s bar scene. From her early days hustling 2,500 baht plus drink commissions on Soi-7 to her current reign at 69 Bar, she’s seen it all: the players, the paydays, the promises, and the heartbreak. She breaks down the unwritten rules of bar girl survival—how to flirt without feeling, how to spot a wallet from across the room, and how to keep the fantasy alive just long enough to get paid.

“I gotta have iPhone. I gotta have gold,” she says, with the kind of unapologetic swagger that only comes from living the hustle. She’s been the fantasy—dolled up, seductive, and ready to play the part. But now? She’s done acting. Koi strips off the mask and lays it all bare: the emotional toll, the blurred lines between love and transaction, and the moment she chose truth over performance.

Mike guides the conversation with his signature mix of comic edge, streetwise curiosity, and deep respect for the Game and its Rules. He doesn’t just ask questions—he digs. And what comes out isn’t just juicy nightlife gossip—it’s a raw, intimate portrait of a Ladyboy who’s lived every shade of Pattaya’s pleasure and pain.

This episode isn’t for the faint of heart. It’s for the curious, the jaded, the romantics, and the skeptics. Whether you’ve been seduced, scammed, or just fascinated by Thailand’s nightlife, Koi’s story will slap you awake, challenge your assumptions, and leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about ladyboys, love, and the price of connection.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. I'm Mike and we are as always. Since you guys start to help us, we start doing it in this studio here, which is Fox 3 Studio in Teppercit in Pattaya. These guys help us a lot with promoting, with shooting it and with the whole setup, and I know you guys like it, so I want to thank them. Uh, we really appreciate that and I have a very special guest. I know I always say that, but she's one of the most sexiest ladyboys you can find in pattaya. Her name is koi. Hello, hello Koi.

Speaker 2:

Hi mate.

Speaker 1:

How are you doing?

Speaker 2:

I'm going beautifully. What about you? I'm doing?

Speaker 1:

okay. I would say okay. Normally I say everything always okay, but today I'm just doing okay. You cannot have perfect days all the time.

Speaker 2:

You know yeah exactly.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes our energy is a bit down, a bit up. It's changing all the time and I accept that, yeah, well, but everything is go beautifully.

Speaker 2:

I love that and it's really good winter today and, of course, it's exciting to be here with you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thank you by the way, but if we're talking for one second about weather, so right now, in my country, yesterday was like a record of heat. It was 51 degrees, oh 51. It was never like that. Maybe I'll be there. I think it's everyone how your makeup is melting and everything. Yeah, it's the global warming or I don't know, but it's.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy like I don't know it's different with here, so hard, by the way, I come here.

Speaker 1:

It's, oh god, it's hot here, but it's always the same weather, you know. So it's always ranging between, let's say, 25 to 32, okay, so it's okay, you get used to it. You know, my friend I don't think you met him, my friend Scott when he just first came to Thailand first time he was sweating all the time, for sure, but after a month or a month and a half here you'll get used to it.

Speaker 2:

We are not sweating as much as oh yeah, because so that's mean he have some more experience and maybe it's be no more for him. Yeah, it's become normal. Why?

Speaker 1:

exactly, yeah, also you, you know, now you start drinking more water, so your body is staying cool, cool all the time. You maybe you change the clothes to something more comfortable or more light so you're not sweating as much, but it's also your body just telling you hey, okay, we're fine with that. You're enjoying yourself in thailand. We will let you enjoy it. Yes, I love it.

Speaker 2:

So I met you first time, actually not that long ago yeah, just a few days ago from 69 Bar in Sayapum, which by the way, lately became one of my go-to bars.

Speaker 1:

Almost every day I go there Because I really like the environment. It's very relaxed over there, you know.

Speaker 2:

So actually I just came back. This time I stayed there for a few days either, but uh, yes, please can you tell me how about you?

Speaker 1:

no more yeah, I like it because it's relaxed. It's not too much hustle, no much. No one pushing you too much for drinks.

Speaker 2:

You know also, sometime when I need to do some editing, they let me work from there, of course, because because they are perfect, you know, girl, and they work there with a lot of experience. I really respect them that they have. So really, really enjoy with your time. Yes, and of course, the first, from we meet, we talk face to face about I provide you what you like to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you have work in that night.

Speaker 1:

No, no, this is a routine. So every time, because I want to explain to the people that never been here. Okay, so whenever someone go to a bar right one time, let's say I'm a new customer I go to the bar, I walk in, what you tell me? I will say no, no, not. I will say just, i'm'm here.

Speaker 2:

I'm welcome, thank you and ask you how is your beautiful day?

Speaker 1:

My day is okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you. That's with my opinion, to ask the customer, but I would have different with anyone. Just my idea. I cannot. I want to play with you. Oh, you want to?

Speaker 1:

play with me? We play. I'm a customer. Okay, I walk into the bar. We play. I'm a customer. Okay, I walk into the bar. You see me. I sit in a table. You come to me. What's going on? First, you greet me. Hello, how are you? Yes, of course Go on.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Wait a minute. I gotta say so to make you interesting. In May I will ask, of course, everything about you and of course I gotta say, please can I have one thing and see the joy?

Speaker 1:

but you're not offering me drink yet. Oh, I need to offer me drink first.

Speaker 2:

So okay, my, what you like to drink? Honey, I would like to drink vodka. Shrebs for now please, oh okay, I will come back in a minute just a moment, please.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you walk fast. You bring me the drink back, oh sure yeah, and I come back with that thing.

Speaker 2:

I got to ask you that you interesting someone here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like you, yeah, yeah, yeah, you look very beautiful.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1:

You are handsome and sweet like that that's why you take me here. Thank you you are.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I love to give a good service to customer or something like that. I saw them, that they start with a beautiful morning there and you know people looking for goodness you could have.

Speaker 1:

So you make sure they had a good day that you had Like. I know many times that I go to a bar. The second or the third question they ask you is have you eat already? Because they want to make sure you already had food right. So the ladies normally come and ask me you eat rice already. And then I say yeah, yeah, I eat. And then they ask if I want a drink, if I can buy them a drink, of course, it's a good idea.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a good, but yeah, but I ask for me that it depends that uh who said, if she have uh enough experience or good english, she can give you uh another uh, you think it will be more, a better experience? Yeah, I think experience is really more important for lady. Feel like me. So, uh, just so you know, I I never studying before by my english. I like uh listening and come to speaking.

Speaker 2:

I like you yourself, thought you taught yourself everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's me, because I, hopefully, when I have dealing with customer and of course I I don't really know about our next lesson of another one, but I try to explain myself how to be here and serve with our customer and of course I think, hopefully we always enjoy and beautiful time with us. Okay, something like that.

Speaker 1:

So I can feel. So I don't know much about you, okay, but I can feel that you do have a lot of experience working in Pattaya in general. So have you worked bars before? Yes yes, how many bars you worked before?

Speaker 2:

I think I have salary first time from Soy 7, land of Smile Bar. Okay, yes, there is a really good bar for me, because that time I don't know how to speak English and welcome customers. Okay, I think that time I start with my salary 2,500 baht with free room.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and of course that's my room and you get drinks. Yes, yeah, drink commission. 30 baht. 30 baht for every drink.

Speaker 2:

Yes, okay, and after that I'm more, get experience, can more speak English. I change for the 69 bar place Before they have their own one from the Soi Made in Thailand.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, soi Mith Mith Night, it's called.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, something like that. Okay, so, yeah, but this one they say the new 69.

Speaker 1:

The new 69.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I just been there for two weeks and the time you see, yeah, yeah, okay, yes, I've just been there for two weeks and the time you see, yeah, yeah, okay, and I guess also on your free time, you're doing some freelancing also, because most of the working girls and ladyboys in Pattaya also, like they use apps like Thai Friendly or Tinder or Grindr or whatever to find customers. You think, like, how long do you already stay in Pattaya Not this time, I mean in general, almost 10. Almost 10 years, yes, okay. And do you think, like the whole thing with the apps and the I mean Thai-friendly Grindr, tinder you think it's changed the whole freelance thing? Friendly, grindr, tinder you think it's changed the whole freelance thing? Because I remember, if we look 10 years ago, I remember many people are just at the night and ladies and ladyboys just stand in the beach hall and this is how they look customer. But now you can just sit home, go on the apps, look for customers.

Speaker 2:

You don't even have to sweat yourself. Yeah, we have to change with that situation, because I think now about the online or anything much better than uh you prefer it. Yes, I, I prefer it. Okay, yes, so uh, ask, for me it's nothing different. 90, if you stay on the beat load. You are. See, face to face, you are by competition or whatever. Yeah, of course you must. 90%, they take you 90%.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you think if you go to the bridge road 90% you get customer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and be sure to take hand by hand because we work together. But come back to the online from the Thai family or tinder or whatever you say uh, how, how do you know this? This?

Speaker 1:

you can call video, you can do video call. You can ask for pictures, like you can ask even hey, can you show me a picture without makeup or with make you? You know also some people which I think it's not nice, but will ask uh, show me a pussy, or show me your cock, or show me your teeth, it doesn't matter. But there is options there to find maybe something that is more suitable for you I agree with you.

Speaker 2:

But someone like we know people different need and different opinion like different yeah. So uh, after me that some reason customer don't ask, but 80 they ask for listen. You say really? Yeah, normally they ask for pictures and stuff like this yeah, yeah, they start like that and show me naked or whatever they want to see.

Speaker 1:

But maybe then they just fuck off. They not want you, not because you are not good, because they only wanted the pictures.

Speaker 2:

Yes, of course. That's why I say in B-Lost much better. Yeah, so sometimes they lie. I have this lesson, that this story. Of course I'm a little bit upset, but I move on from that, about that they let me go to a hotel right, explain from the beginning.

Speaker 1:

So you stay in the beach hold.

Speaker 2:

No, we stay online. Oh, okay, chat online together, hi-friendly or whatever. Yeah, I come from Thai, philly, come to Lai, we chat each other.

Speaker 1:

I just tell for the listeners Lai is a very common chatting app. It's like WhatsApp, but for the Asian countries. I think it's not only the Asians, but it's very popular over here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, they do Like. They invite you to visit them in the hotel.

Speaker 1:

So the customer tell you hey, I like you, can you come to my hotel? Yes, okay, what time was that? Night time, daytime.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter, it depends when you're not lazy.

Speaker 1:

They message will come to you, that's true, it depends.

Speaker 2:

When you're not lazy, the message will come to you. That's true. So after me, sometimes they lie Like you went to hotel or room number, everything is like that. There is no one there. Yeah, like a bullshit at all. Why do they want to do that? Just to play with you? I want to ask them either, but they disappear already. I can't ask anyone, yeah, but like I know, I remember.

Speaker 1:

Let's say, if I go Thai friendly, which I sometimes do, and let's say I want to meet someone, Normally they say hey, can you send me your location? Yes, to make sure I'm really here. Yes, I am. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do that. Either. You also ask for location?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, but everything is. That's why I tell you from the beginning everything really be perfect. Like he make you trust you, like make you trust he there and exactly I will meet he there, okay, but when you arrive there, it's empty, nobody.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but I'm sure you also had like good experiences. Yeah, I'm sure sometimes people tell you meet you in time, friendly, and say, hey, listen, actually I don't want us to fuck, can we go to a dinner or can we have some time to some fun together. I think it's also happened like to have like good experience like that yeah, this story happened to me with my ex-boy ex-boyfriend yeah, yeahboyfriend, yeah, oh yeah, we've met before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a very special time because how we meet Wait, I want to know. Okay, we meet in Tinder, in Tinder, yeah, and we have a conversation to vote, I agree by the way.

Speaker 1:

Conversation, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Conversation was like good, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1:

No problem, I keep it better.

Speaker 2:

So he an appointment with me to meet in the Starbucks from Central Pattaya, central Pattaya, yes, so I went there in the time, yeah, and of course he.

Speaker 1:

So he not ask you to go to the room or something about the sex? He just want to meet you.

Speaker 2:

Just dinner.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Just dinner and have a few drink. Yeah, he didn't agree with me to to go to bed with me, but uh, yeah, like a feeling, like me, I I'm more in, like a what does mean with my look and my energy and with my confidence myself to make him interesting to take me. That that's your duty. You could do like how to make the customer interesting in you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course you can say agree with everything from appointment, yeah, before, beforehand, yeah, okay, and after faith to faith, I think I, yeah, yeah so you meet him in a date and you went out for a date and few drinks and it was nice, and then you just keep on meeting for a few days and then you became boyfriend, girlfriend uh no, we try to learn each other for a while, for a while yes, okay, like he was, but he was still here or he went back home already he back home, okay, so I stayed with him from the last two days he was here.

Speaker 2:

I think he can sell this show, so, yeah, and after that I followed him to Bangkok. We have a good story In Bangkok.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how long have you been together?

Speaker 2:

We've been together in Pattaya six months.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean the relationship Almost two years, two years yes.

Speaker 2:

And you're still together. Six months he's here, six months he goes. Yes, he has to work because I love money, money, money. You know.

Speaker 1:

Okay and I respectfully ask. So you are kind of still together, but he knows, when he's not here you're still going with customers and go to 60, go walk the bars or something, or it's kind of in the middle, All right.

Speaker 2:

So this thing we're coming because you have to ask yourself, or both of you, first how much do you trust each other? Okay, I am an honest person and I try to keep do everything. This. My word was saying yeah, so I think him either. So for me, you open about this.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you talk about this and he know like, okay, sometime, because you need money, as you said. Yeah, you need to make provide for yourself. You have to take care of yourself and your family, I guess also, so you still need to be working. This means walking the bar, get drinks maybe, I don't know sometimes going with customers okay.

Speaker 2:

So who want to be my long relationship? I have to give them my, my, my opinion and my offer. They agree with me or not. So I call boyfriend because he have to, uh, support me, be my sponsor or stay by my side already, so he, you mean he have to send you some money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah like, uh, how much for man. Like uh, okay, can you stay with. They are waiting for me, I give you this, this. They're gonna have pen for both of them. Yeah, and after that. Yeah, everything is cool. Beautiful, me never fight when we stay far away, but me fight when we see fit, of course.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's always like that that the human always jealous it's not only jealous, I think also sometime, especially when people stay apart for a long time when you come together, then you see the good stuff, but also you start to see the bad stuff and sometime, like not everyone is very like um tuned to each other. You know, sometimes it's okay to have some fights. It's even good, because you can take out aggression, you can take out bad feelings and then, of course, you have makeup sex. After the fight you can have better sex yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I understand. Yeah, so there are benefits for having fights. Sometimes, yes, if you don't fight in bed, it's not so exciting, that's so. Yeah, but sometimes it's too over if the person move on for that reason, but the person stay there. Sometimes it's really difficult, difficult for us to understand. Like, okay, now we have met each other and after that we went to bed together. We forget what the reason in the past, something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but again, here comes the thing of a good conversation. So when you stay with someone, for example, when I used to stay with my ex my ex is a Thai lady we used to be together for eight years when we had fight for me it was very difficult to go to sleep before we fix the problems. So sometimes we even sit and talk two, three hours to make sure we both find a solution. It can be hard, but after you feel much better because you know, okay, I express myself, I tell my partner, okay, what I feel, what I like, what I don't like. Okay, she tell me that back and hopefully we can move on. You know, yeah, the problem, as you said, sometimes people start fighting and then say, okay, okay, okay, we not fight, but they not fix the problem. Yeah, then they have sex or not, it doesn't matter. The next day they wake up and they forget oh, so jealous, both of you now.

Speaker 2:

So yes, it's really difficult to see someone like that like uh, you have uh that listen with her. Yeah, but we still.

Speaker 1:

But now we are still ex, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.

Speaker 2:

Eventually we separated, but whatever the time your part together is a beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course I remember the good things. Yeah, yes, I remember the bad things also Difficult to find person like that, I think.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I will tell you something that I told many times. Too many people I meet in Pattaya, yeah, yeah, sometimes when you meet a bar girl or a lady boy, it doesn't matter. Yes, I'm not talking only about girls or lady boys, I'm talking about people here in Pattaya. Most of them are working girls, most of them have. They are drinking a lot of alcohol in a daily base. Some of them are doing drugs and also they are normally a very big age gap.

Speaker 1:

So sometimes, let's say, a lady or lady boy that is 22 or 23, her boyfriend will be 50 years old. What is the connection over there? Come on, it's not possible to have something in common. She's a baby compared to you. You know, she likes two different shows, she likes different music, she likes everything different and you, you are the old guy, right? And also there is another thing. There is the cultural difference. So the asians are very different from the westerns in their culture, in the respect, in the way they talk, the way they treat each other.

Speaker 1:

It's something that many couples don't don't understand, and sometimes people go into a relationship when it's something that many couples don't don't understand and sometimes people go into a relationship when it's not not fitting. Um, for example I give you last example before you can my ex. She was only one year younger than me, okay, so the age was always this, almost the same. We had many things in common, okay, right, yeah, she had a drinking problem and I had my own problems, but it's okay because we were, as I said, the same age, the same interest, so we can grow up together. You know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that, but I have the experience like that either. But Pattaya, just say hello, welcome to Pattaya. They know exactly what they want in themselves already. What do you mean? You?

Speaker 1:

think all the guys come here only for sex.

Speaker 2:

Don't mean that at all, but Most of them yes, most of them they're looking for it. They didn't really with long relationship with you or something.

Speaker 1:

What is that so different with the regular dating scene, I mean back home? Let's say, I want to meet someone, I go on Tinder or any other app I have, and we meet, we go date, but of course I want to fuck her or she wants to fuck me, it doesn't matter, the sex is always there. The thing is that you have to think like, like yeah, here men are going with more ladies or ladyboys because they have more options. Sure, but if you like someone, you like someone. You know, when you have this, this connection, this click, okay, you know you're getting connected with someone, then it's, it can be real yet can be, but I have to to come back on my uh real time that I this is on duty.

Speaker 2:

You pain if you do that because and you get made, you get your right. You, you lot, a lot of customer if you try to have that inside your mind yeah, I'm talking, yeah, I understand.

Speaker 1:

I'm not talking from the perspective of the working girls. I'm talking of the Westerns. Yeah, the Westerns. I think they do look for that real deep connection, some of them.

Speaker 2:

I have to apologize for you deeply. I never been there situation.

Speaker 1:

Really Never. Someone come to you and tell you Koi, like after two few times you meet Koi. Listen, I really like you. What can we do so we can be together?

Speaker 2:

I have a lot of guys give me the offer like that and the first answer for me that I say I apologize, I have duty to do so. People come to Pattaya to holiday. They are journey, whatever, they come for fun because they holiday. You have to exactly know what they want. So I try before put my feeling, put my heart yes, come to be my man, I will stay by your side, or whatever it's pain and wake your time. You get nothing much than like you'll be free, okay, yeah that's me.

Speaker 1:

So you're money money oriented. You're thinking, okay, I don't want to waste my time, I better get like more customers than regular customers, because I'm here to make money. Of course, no one want to work as I'm sorry for the the words I'm going to use, but as a prostitute or a bar girl. No one's dream to work that. They work that because they need the money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, like, lady need money, a man need a lady. Right, If we agree each other what appointment we prefer to ask. Yeah, like, okay, you give me, uh, you transfer me slowly, like this, I'll be your girl. Like, uh, one by one, you give me, I give you, but I don't really have like that, I have only my own experience. Be, be alone. I love to spend time by alone. I I try twice time with two ex-boys and I compete, always thinking about past story we us have before. I always say just waste my time, because if you need to really want long relationship or need someone stay by your side, just get out for this village. Pattaya is never enough for anyone.

Speaker 1:

You know I have two questions for you. I will start with the first one. I had some bad experience the other day. So there was someone talking with me on Thai Friendly and she want to meet, and I tell her listen right now, like I don't want because I don't have much money.

Speaker 1:

I wait for my salary and whatever. It doesn't matter. I'm so sorry, so we cannot meet right now. I don't want to waste your time, I don't want you, so you have to wait. When I will have the money, we can meet. Then she said to me okay, you don't have to pay. Then she said to me okay, you don't have to pay, we can just go eat something.

Speaker 2:

I said okay, that's a good possibility, you sure you want to go eat with me.

Speaker 1:

So yeah. So she said yeah. So then we go to some restaurant. We had dinner together, yeah. And after dinner she say can I come to your room? I say, listen, I told you before I don't want to waste your time. I, I don't want you to feel that I'm not respecting you. We can do that, but another time when I will have the money. Okay, I like you, I want to meet you when I'm able to afford that, right, all right. Then she said okay, she went home and then she started sending me message. Oh, you are a fucking cheap child.

Speaker 2:

To be immune.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you not even pay me for the time when I sit with you, eat with you, and and then I say, wait, I asked you before. Okay, I asked you before. I told you I don't have. You want to eat with me? It's fine, I take you to a nice restaurant. We have fun together, we talk, I pay for the food, right? Yeah, I told you before that I prefer not meeting you because I don't have. You cannot angry me now for your waste of time. Yeah, you agree, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But then she say, no, I, I, I not understand what you say because I'm not good English. I say, come on, don't bullshit. Okay, I don't like this kind of games, you know. If she tells me, listen, you want to take me to a dinner, you have to pay for my time, I will say okay, I'm sorry, so I cannot take you to dinner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so this one experience, I be true before the way I pass. So yeah, before I be like her, I get mad because I say this guy reject on me, he really fucked off or not nice to me or he bullshit. I forget that in my mind from the beginning. I agree with the appointment and I prefer him to go to dinner. So that's why I try to say that the lady boy is a good much like more high ego, like something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but ego is always a problem with everyone. Everyone have their own ego and it's very easy to get mad, especially when now it's the low season and it's very hard to make money now yeah, come back to your story.

Speaker 2:

See, she don't. She don't upset that. Uh, you, you don't pay her or anything to her. She upset that. She think you reject her. You think that, yeah, yeah, all ladyboy, because ladyboy, what, what? What ladyboy looking for, if they agree with your appointment, like that.

Speaker 1:

By the way, who tell you it was a ladyboy?

Speaker 2:

I never say it was a ladyboy uh, excuse me, sir, you sit on my bar every night, so, yeah, what doesn't matter. Yeah, this is my opinion. If I mistake, apologize about that. But come back to to that if you take her, she don't mind, because that time she needs sick.

Speaker 1:

I don't think so because I I maybe you right. I tell you what I think I think in her mind she said okay, he take me to dinner. If I convince to fuck, then maybe later he have to pay me money, not now, but he get, so I get that money for sure. I think maybe this is what she think. I don't know if it's about the reject or not, because you know what you might be right. It's your fault, it's my fault. I'm the bad man.

Speaker 2:

It's your fault. You could ask your in your concern first oh, did she speak the truth? She really want some reason like that just for dinner and have sex. Because it's your fault, you don't think carefully enough. Okay, maybe, yeah, yeah, Maybe you are, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's okay, I need the input. That's why I asked you. So you think, basically what I should have done is have the dinner with her, then take her to my room, do whatever we do in the room and then not pay her Because she agrees. But we're not talking about the sex, we're talking about the dinner.

Speaker 2:

We're talking about the dinner, then we could have early dinner. If she tried to blame you later, when she arrived her room and she tried to reply thousand story, come to you like hey, you're a bad bitch, or what house is like that. It's not your fault, it's her problem, it's not your problem, it's not my problem. It's now okay because uh I.

Speaker 1:

I think I was very respectful. Yeah, you know, when I telling her the whole truth and I told her listen, I cannot right now. I don't want to make you feel not wanted. I don't want you to feel like you not appreciated for your time.

Speaker 2:

My sweetie, not too far from you, behind you, take her, try to give her offer and see if she will blame you or not. So actually for me, I be that way for a long time, a couple of years it's Pattaya. I don't have much opinion for another allow here, because people, they have different things and different needs. You know, like, ask for me, I do, but I get nothing left. I still same. I think for seven years. I get nothing left. I still same. I think for seven year I get made of customer. Customer don't keep me doing. Customer don't give me what exactly I want. I blame them. I still get angry. Yeah, and I just change for this person for a year ago.

Speaker 1:

So you change a bit your personality? Yeah, because you want to be happy or because you think you will make more money if you actually stop be so angry I need, uh, I need a friend, I need a honest human behind. You feel distance, you feel that maybe people are scared about you because how you acted. Yeah, I, I.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's interesting I think that you went to my bar. I serve with you, or my friend serve with you, ask for me. People stay. Oh, she, she do like this is so sweet, she serve with pity. Nice, she are lovely, she need to uh fuck or anything. But don't think that for me, because I give you like that, I hopefully I will serve with you good and I give you a good net back to you. People looking for a good net, people looking for smile. So so, before I upset and I wake, my time for many years I think it's enough. So now just my, what is your happier? I am happy, happy and, of course, a little bit exciting. But okay.

Speaker 1:

And the second question I wanted to ask you before because you said that right now, like you don't, you try to focus about making money, making money, making money. How can you control your heart? What will happen if you meet someone handsome like me and you fall in love? Oh no, really, with a joke aside, if you meet someone that you like, really me, so okay. Okay, if you meet someone that you really like, even maybe just buy you a few drinks and whatever, or even if you go with him sometimes and he pay for you, of course. But you start to have feeling what you do? You block your heart, you try to block your heart and say, oh, I don't need this, I need to focus on myself.

Speaker 2:

Or you just say you call me by now, or or before. I let's say now, now for me. I, I know, have that feeling you cannot fall in love anymore yes, I just, I just protect myself that I have to be like I know exactly what I do. Now the thing I do is duty. It's duty. They come holiday, they pay your drink, they pay your food.

Speaker 1:

That means they pay, but not everyone come here holiday. Have many people that live here also.

Speaker 2:

But I think I own now. I didn't have time like a young lady boy because I think money.

Speaker 1:

You know that old. You know that old. Come on, you just like to say that you know that old.

Speaker 2:

So thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Really appreciate that.

Speaker 2:

So up for me to want that feeling. Of course half I'm a human. I have that feeling. To be honest, I have that feeling. Of course I have a dream about that, but not too far.

Speaker 1:

Everything has limits you have to forget the way you be and you don't scared you maybe lose opportunity. So what I mean? Some of the guys I'm sure really like you and some of the guys you maybe have a very good life with them if you choose to open your heart. You know you don't have this feeling. Oh man, maybe I'm losing my chance to be very happy with someone that I like.

Speaker 2:

I've been looking for it, but now I respect myself first. I want to heal myself much better. I want to heal myself much better because this time I have to think now you want to shoot to the way to be an old lady boy with nothing left, or you want to shoot to be an old lady boy with extra money? Okay, yet the time is included.

Speaker 1:

So for you in your future you see just these two options, so you don't believe in love here anymore.

Speaker 2:

I don't say that I don't believe it's difficult. It has, but really difficult for me. I think that when you have a long relationship with me, I have a good actor, good experience. I have many things to change for you because I exactly know inside me what I want. I pain when I do that to another one, to do self-fit like that. That's why I change myself to be uh, I am what I am, like something like that let me get it right.

Speaker 1:

So if you do have a guy that before I'm not saying yeah, guy that you know that interested, interested in you, and you think, okay, maybe I can get something out of it, oh sure, so you play you. You change the mask all the time, yeah, just to make him feel, sometimes feel bad, sometimes feel good. Of course you keep him on control yeah that, that, that's ib that's why I feel enough.

Speaker 2:

Yet I feel pain. When I do that. I I really ask myself a couple times that's this is exactly what you want to do? You're hurting someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wake them up. I eat the money. I hate them. You hate them. Yeah, I saw it, because any guy I try to long relationship, they cry for me, not I cry for them. Okay, yes, I apologize that when you be long relationship with me, you thinking about love and looking for my heart and stay beside of you. I'm looking slowly how much he can give me. I gotta have iPhone. I gotta have a goal.

Speaker 1:

I gotta be, you will accomplish your goals.

Speaker 2:

Yes, by the way, I want to be high-cut without no working because he's so fit. Okay, that's me before.

Speaker 1:

I love your honesty. I think it's very good that you're feeling comfortable to talk about your past feelings and past history. I know you are a changed person now. What will you do now in this situation? You will just tell him sorry, I don't want to hurt you, I don't want to waste your time, I'm not ready for relationship. Or would you say something like sorry for cutting you, but like listen, we can try, but I cannot promise you anything.

Speaker 2:

I have this lesson and many, many other like that, but I I love actor. I don't love the saying, but different because people, people say when they spend time with you, I like you, I need you, I I love you, but but later the act is different, because the feeling change sometimes, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes, when you stay with someone for a long time, sometimes you even love them more. But sometimes the love can come down if you are not keeping to try to love each other. You know if you are getting comfortable too much with someone or if sometimes you lose the romantic behind the relationship. You know it's very important once in a while even if you stay together with someone three years, same house Once in a while go on a date together, dress nice, you know, take some, go somewhere special, spend the time together, not talking about work, not talking, just talking about how much you appreciate each other.

Speaker 2:

I explain this with my profile, facebook. I have like 4,000 friends there. Okay, so I always say people confident by themselves, people they believe themselves they are better than anyone and people they always that they never done anything wrong. Same the guy want to come to me. When the beginning they need me they never saw from the end was it come to us. So after me that when I'm ready to make love with someone, Make love.

Speaker 1:

You not mean sex, you mean like-.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, make love or in a relationship yes, okay so I have two hand, I have two eye, I have my, my strength, I have power. Morning, wake up together, yeah, work together, separate work together. Evening, come back home, cooking together, shower together, go to bed together. Slowly come me, pay anything together and save for a little bit to to make a trip for a couple time of year. Yeah, that's what I want. I don't want to stay high card without working.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I'm looking for that person to to welcome me give you not only the love, but also to give you the opportunity. You mean, yes, the opportunity to be a better self, a better you yeah, sometime, sometime I, what would you? Walk. If you have this opportunity, let's say you meet someone, he really likes you and he have enough money to afford anything. He say koi, what would you want to do? What work you want to to?

Speaker 2:

do my when that time is coming.

Speaker 1:

The future will find that for you, yeah, but you don't have any dream for this.

Speaker 2:

I don't even know that I hope for a future, but I never dream of the future. So if I love that person, I always want to do everything better for him. Okay, like you love me, you want to give me everything the best. Yes, so I don't have a dreamer for a future. I can make, did make, did make, job like this, like this. Sometime that's pan never exist.

Speaker 1:

You think, I think I understand you now. So you wasted so much time that right right now, even dreaming sound like a waste of time for you. Dream for what better do? Yes, really, so now we stay. That's kind of I'm sorry to say, but it's a little bit sad to hear that. I tell you why. I tell you why I'm not. I'm not thinking you're doing something wrong. I understand exactly where you're coming from, but I think hope and dreams is have motivation all the time. If you lose the option to dream and to hope, sometimes we just become sad dream and hope yes, for the income.

Speaker 2:

You say sad, you have to be spec from the beginning. First. You hope that the beginning you, you lead some. You lose something, lose money, lose anything, no, depends how, because you just hope and dream. You lose nothing when you dream and you hope you have to be spec. Of course, people upset people dream, dream not come over. People hope, hope doesn't exit. People upset, upset people cry. People say people not lucky. No, you misunderstand from the beginning. The beginning. You think about that. You saw about that with your mind. You lot not think. You didn't even I pay the paper money for take the dream come over. No, you're just thinking. So when they don't exit, you have to understand. By the way, okay, never mind, just a new, new choice. That's me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's why I tell you I understand what you're saying, but you remember when you were young you had so much dreams about what you want to do yes you know, I'm sure none of them had to do anything with the pattern I do.

Speaker 1:

I None of them. I'm sure it was beautiful dreams about doing something that you love and making the world better. But then reality hits and you understand that the world is hard. But I don't know. I don't want to lose my dreams, I don't want to lose the hope that someday everything will be better. Maybe you say, maybe now you hear this in your mind, you say, oh, he's like a baby. He still dream about this. Yeah, I want to be baby. I want to be able to hope for better world.

Speaker 2:

Oh sure, when you are young baby, you say I need to grow up and be young and be super full hour or something like that.

Speaker 1:

I mean at my age also, I still want to feel better, hopeful for the future, yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

But hope doesn't exist. You have to to to be spake, not upset. That's why I say people hope and dream. Not wrong, you can, I believe, like, if you have hope, if you have dream, just keep it on and one day your power will be shy, okay, yes, but if your power not be shy, the hope doesn't exist. Respect, because don't be upset, just move on. Take another listen, take another dream, because people, when they have a dream, people when they have a hope, they think of that listen in their mind. Why it's not me? Why, why it's not?

Speaker 1:

happened to me Something like that. You're talking about something else. No, you're talking about jealousy. You're talking about looking at someone else and say I want to be like him. I never say no, no, no, no, sorry, no, it's okay, I understand what you're saying, but I think you are looking at the wrong angle. I'm not talking about seeing other people and say, oh, I want to have this, I want to be like this. No, I'm saying, looking inside yourself and thinking what I want to do.

Speaker 2:

I have no opinion for this. Really part I deeply, but actually I inside of my conscience. You just want to make money no, I just make honestly and do it with my honesty, okay, because I, I try to speak different with you, that that, that, that or I have no any reason for people allow behind it's me. So I, I have only experience like me, like uh, of course we have our own experiences, yeah like uh, I want to be myself. Are you yourself?

Speaker 1:

now, yeah, I am, you are yourself. You are not putting masks anymore.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Good, how was it to make that change Like it was hard.

Speaker 2:

It's hard, but you might learn, I already do. Yeah, people love to sing, but people don't love to do it.

Speaker 1:

I'm a big believer. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I don't blame you. I know you don't blame me, I know you mean in general, but I'm a big believer in honesty. I'm a big believer in showing my true self to people. Even I tell you more than that. When I stay with, for example, my ex or with my family, before it doesn't matter they always tell me Mike, you're too honest, you tell everything about yourself all the time to all people. Why, why are you open so much? I say because I open, because this is the only way I know. I think, keeping secret and keeping close to yourself all the time, one will really open to you. Yes, but when I meet someone, I don't mind, tell my whole story, my whole life story, honestly, without bullshit, without lying, without making myself big or small or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Finally, I say finally, I really appreciate that and I agree with you. You're doing so when you talk to me, you are open with your honesty and your experience. Bypass the way you be. Yeah, yes, because I really welcome to listen it and if something I think it's work in the life for next future, I will keep it better to me. I really open like that. Yeah, that's why I I happy to be myself. I don't want to feel like that.

Speaker 1:

I think we're very similar in that point right now. So we both come and just show who we are really. We don't try to be actors with anyone, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like I am what I am. You agree with me. You walk this way. You disagree, just separate. It's really simple. Okay, it's simple. I'm sorry, no that's good.

Speaker 1:

I know how easy it is. But for some people it's not easy because they feel very vulnerable. They are scared that someone will hurt them if they will really open to someone.

Speaker 2:

I've been hurt for a long time. Everyone's been hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I learned with that and now I have my own child, my young sister, young brother. I want. That's the big deal we have to do. That's a good actor.

Speaker 1:

Wait, you have young sister, yeah, to take care. Young brother, yeah, and what more. On child yes, you have a child.

Speaker 2:

I have a son, really, yes, how old? Three years now. Three years, yeah, and that's why I really more forgot about my actor. If you have a big dude, this will change your life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is why you decide to change, because you have a son. I am. Can I ask you how you make?

Speaker 2:

So this comes with my family. So young brother, he's just 17 years old, he go have a girlfriend and make her pregnant. Okay, yes, and they invite me that. Oh, sita, what can I do? Because my girlfriend like this, like this, and at that time they're very young, yeah, they don't know how to do, they need to peel, do long way a bad thing, you understand.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I tell her that I say, okay, just hold on, don't think that in hurry up. Can you be, like I tell, with my girlfriend for young butter? I tell, I tell her that can you be a patient for nine months? I give you everything you want. Just tell me I I keep you, but when you're born, that that child is, is be powerful with me so this child is on your name now. Yes, really it's a powerful of me Okay.

Speaker 1:

Like a. You know I'm so in the government.

Speaker 2:

You are his. No, no, no, no, not yet, but Like a I don't deem for Okay, you are my son. I am powerful. You know. I just want to have a life as much as I can. It's that time. But they listen everything from me what my word was. That's why I have to do my actor is really important. I cannot do nonsense or stupid girl cannot. I am a lady boy, but I'm not different with your feeling. I'm not high or not down. We are same. We happy me, smile me, upset. It's same. No one is better than one.

Speaker 1:

Of course we are all human.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's why I try to. I forget all along the reason I have boyfriend, girlfriend customer.

Speaker 1:

Now you have to focus on your son. Yes, I do.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's so beautiful. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. No, really, because I understand. Thank you.

Speaker 1:

I'm so proud of you also. But it's beautiful that sometime all we need is someone else to take care in order to fix ourselves. Sometime our life just get crazy and crazy and then one day we have responsibility and then we say, okay, we cannot be crazy anymore. We cannot. We have to be good people to help someone else.

Speaker 2:

This thing what is more important for you, your soul or your inside?

Speaker 1:

conscience. I want you to explain more what you mean.

Speaker 2:

Like for me. I come, I be honest with my conscience inside to show out, not about my soul myself, okay, so you try to use your heart and not your brain. Yes, some, some reason like that, because the, the soul, change every second. The thoughts, yeah, yes, but the conscience never do anything mistake. The concern always come to be true for you, but the source make you change. Yes, I agree.

Speaker 1:

But I think sometimes, especially, it's for good people, not the bad people. Sometimes they read the situation wrong. They are too nice or they are too good or they help too much because inside they feel, oh, it's good, but then someone take advantage, someone use them.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. In the beginning, I upset with that. I'm not strong enough for that reason, but now it's never mind.

Speaker 1:

Now, even if someone use you, you okay. If someone tell you I don't know whatever, koi, I need your help something. But when you ask help back, they never help you. You not feel? Oh, I do mistake.

Speaker 2:

No, before I upset. Now it's no, it's really normal for me now. It's like they call for help. I help them, yeah. So when I help them, I ask myself already exactly you want to do that. If one day you have nothing left, you need help, you need them come to stay by your side and help you back and daily check you or you didn't pay, I ask myself, no, no, no, because not that. Listen, I want to help them to have a good dream to a next future. You do it selfishly.

Speaker 1:

So you're not doing it in order to make yourself feel good. You just want to help someone without anything I can, I try, you know many, many, many, many people in all religions of the world, but especially in the buddhist religion. Years of learning to get to where you are.

Speaker 2:

You're basically now a buddhist you try, I believe, on my buddha, yeah, but you do. You not only believe, you do also I, I, I try my best and I hope I, I, I do well yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

So we have only three minutes left, okay for this episode. So I will do the closing bit, okay. So first of all I want to thank you very much. It was so much pleasure to talking with you and I know before you worried we talked too much about sex and this, but you see, just normal conversation yeah, yeah, this be me this is what I like and I really want to thank you for coming. I think you did an amazing job. I hope, hope, you had fun.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so after me I'm so happy and exciting and get some more new experience and I really thank you really much and appreciate that to be here and you're so sweet. And let me explain my privacy to you for listening.

Speaker 2:

I would like also, if you have have some time, you can join us in other episodes oh, with my pager, yeah, and the the last thing I gonna say, that I will come to put our heart and feeling with that. I just want to say, guy, all of you, not doesn't matter who you are or how you be, you just be the word that if you do good, good thing will come back to you, karma, that's all.

Speaker 1:

We are talking about fucking karma. Yes, and there is anything else you want to say to the listeners. Maybe you want them to follow your social media? Oh, sure.

Speaker 2:

So about social media, I just start from the beginning here again, because I just come over for two weeks ago, so I really want to say welcome to you guys to visit me in the 69 bar from Soy Pot Home yeah, the new 69 bar. I be there every night and I hope I can have a good service for all of you there.

Speaker 1:

That's beautiful and I will make sure, guys, if you are interested in being her friends on social media or even talking with her, I will add her links down in the comments so you can find her there, Thank you. And, of course and I want to thank you for listening Thank you for the love and the support that we get for you. If you can again like and subscribe, it does a lot. You don't believe how much it helps. And if you want to help us also providing this beautiful studio here in Fox 3 studio in Pattaya, just go to our Patreon, check it out. There are many cool things there. And thank you, guys. See you next time. Bye, bye, thank you.