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My Thai Wife
Sex Toys and Sugar Boys: The Dating Market in Pattaya, and a Morning Brawl
Relationships in Pattaya are complicated, messy, and often misunderstood by both foreigners and Thai workers alike. Today's raw conversation pulls back the curtain on why finding genuine connection in Thailand's bar scene can be so challenging.
When Scott's budding relationship with a bar worker began falling apart over money issues, it opened up a deeper conversation about the fundamental misunderstandings between foreign men and Thai bar workers. Pim bravely shares her personal experiences working in bars, describing how repeated betrayals and disappointments gradually eroded her ability to trust customers who claim they want real relationships. "I don't trust what they say, but I trust from how they act," she explains, revealing the defense mechanism many workers develop after being treated as commodities rather than people.
The podcast explores the uncomfortable reality of bar buyouts, daily payments, and the unspoken expectations that come with financial support. We examine why many workers prefer short-time arrangements over potentially exploitative "relationships" where they're expected to be constantly sexually available in exchange for financial support. Most revealing is the discussion about why finding commitment in Pattaya is so difficult - not because genuine people don't exist, but because the environment itself breeds suspicion and transactional thinking on both sides.
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Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. I'm Mike and sadly I'm still doing this without my lovely, lovely wife Sunari.
Speaker 2:Hi everyone, nice to see you again. How are you Mike?
Speaker 1:I'm okay. How are you?
Speaker 2:Probably lazy.
Speaker 1:Lazy.
Speaker 2:Lazy morning, so right now it's 9, 9.20 am in the morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on.
Speaker 2:Friday yeah, on Friday, on this Friday, this Friday and it wasn't an easy night for me at least. So yeah, for me. Last night I'm fall asleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you told me, you feel not so good and yeah we were supposed to record this episode yesterday with Scott. But Scott is a loyal guy so when he heard you cannot come, he said no, I'm not doing this without Pimp.
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry, Scott.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's okay, and actually we had an interesting night yesterday. But before I tell you the night, I want to tell about something that Scott actually told me. So he's not here, but I got the permission to talk about it. Okay, cool. So for the last few weeks, scott was seeing someone like on a regular basis, right, so they stay together almost every day, yeah, and it was very good at the beginning, but then it started to develop into relationship, right, and when it started to become a relationship, everything started to get fucked up. So. So first it was about money issues Yep, because the lady he's seeing she's still working at a certain bar, right, I will not say which bar, okay.
Speaker 1:But she's still working in the bar and he's not happy with that right. Right, but he's also not willing to pay to take her out of the bar yeah, yeah understand. But like he said to her, if you will leave the bar I would pay. But I only would pay if you find another job. But unfortunately for her, she's not from Thailand, so she's from Laos, so it's not easy for them to find a job in here, yeah
Speaker 1:and everything like they went together and then they break up. Together and break up because I think there is some love between them yeah but I was talking with him and, like I know from his point of view, right, you say why? Why do I need to pay for the bar? Like she just say, I leave the bar and she can stay with me. So first of all I want to know what? What do you think about the payment for the bar?
Speaker 2:for me it's like well, if she work in a bar the way, like the bar has salary for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:No salary, no salary, no salary. Okay for no salary. This is another another, another, another way, but I means like if her work in a bar and with salary, so Probably it's alright, it's okay to pay for, for taking off because like, yeah, we are again. We are not talking about bar, fine, yeah, right, yeah, we are talking about permanently make her stop walk, yeah right, but about for the place, no salary and everything is like from from staff to make money like drinks, go with customer that's it.
Speaker 1:So they are making money for the bar?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're probably making money for the bar more than the bar pays for them. I feel like that is not really fair to pay and take them to finish working at the bar. It means for court money from the customer?
Speaker 1:Yeah. But for example, let's say you work at the bar, right, Someone buy you out of the bar. You don't get any money out of it, only the bar.
Speaker 2:Probably someplace, half like maybe like half and half.
Speaker 1:Some bars like no, not get any, nothing yeah so I know for a fact this bar where she walk, only go to the bar, everything. So they asked him to pay 10,000 baht in order to make her stop walk Right. But she don't have a contract, she not sign anything. So in his mind and I understand why he say he say just, oh, it's very easy, just tell them you don't want to walk anymore come stay with me, I will take care, take care of you yeah, this is.
Speaker 2:This is a much better way to to let's say, like boyfriend and you love each other, without about money. But the money is not the problem. But the money is not the problem. Do?
Speaker 1:you know what I mean. What is the problem? You think the problem is it's?
Speaker 2:like you, just make sure you educate each other. It doesn't have anything about customer and that thing happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like they don't know each other for many years, they just met, let's say, two months ago.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 1:And that's one thing, and also like he met her in the bar right so if not the bar, he will never meet her. Well, actually, to be true to, to speak truth, he don't. He didn't met her in that bar he met her in another bar when she came for a party over there all right, because it was a birthday, yeah and then he, he really liked how she looked and everything and he bought her a drink.
Speaker 1:And then she told him oh yeah, I work at a certain bar, you can come meet me next day and he did, and I think they spent together most of the last few weeks so for me that way is happening with me also understand it's happened to me also.
Speaker 2:I understand it's like like being with someone and I meet him when I'm working at the bar before I come to work at the last bar at work, then I feel like the way is, I doesn't care about if it about maybe it's happened. I mean, it's like if he talk to me like want to be boyfriend, girlfriend, but doesn't want to pay me, that's, I wanted pay for taking off like that.
Speaker 1:But he said I am willing to pay you. Yeah, not pay the bile.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, like that the way he's like look, look, look on where your meetup I mean depends on you meet them at the bar or just meet them in a place like not working, not in a working let's say in the shop, in the shop, yeah the way it's like um, but I think this is. It is under understand how they feeling when they pay without um feeling love each other, just just just pay for them and lose money that way you're talking about the foreigners yeah, the foreigners, like lady doesn't get anything okay okay okay, his girlfriend doesn't get any money from this money no, from the payout money she don't get anything so why?
Speaker 2:why he need to pay that right yeah, yeah, it's much better to give to his girlfriend like that. That's what.
Speaker 1:That's what he thinks so she told him and again I'm allowed to speak about it. She told him listen, if you don't want to pay me out of the bar, at least pay the bar fine for one month. So the bar fine at that bar is 500 baht. She just said okay, you don't have to take me out, but you want to stay with me? I have to go walk. If you want me not to go walk, at least pay the bar fine. So it's 500 each day and plus she needs to earn money, right? So I don't know how much she asked him for, but you know, when money goes inside relationship, it doesn't it's always make problems, I see.
Speaker 1:I think you had this problem also. I had it and how you solved it, like what he did in order to make it better the way is.
Speaker 2:I mean for for when. That's how.
Speaker 1:That's how I'm still working about yeah, the first, but not the second bar.
Speaker 2:It's about the last time I work. Oh, okay, that time. What we do is like depends on the price. The price I ask is like At your last bar that you worked.
Speaker 1:I know the price there it's 15,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know the price at At your last bar that you worked. I know the price there it's 15,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I know the price at the bar that last time you worked. So it's 50,000 to take a girl out of the bar.
Speaker 2:The way we did it. It's like he doesn't want to pay that money to the bar with nothing. But look on the way he pays by five. It's almost two months yeah and it's more than the price. Take me out the bar yeah, and.
Speaker 1:But if he take you out of the bar, in his mind he might think, oh, so I just paid. Now it's up to you. You want to earn money, earn money you know, what I mean, so he maybe expect you to go walk 7-11, I don't know. Just giving an example yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But that time it's like, okay, he won, but he doesn't like to pay me the price.
Speaker 1:I said and he won you want you, we are talking for you not for the bar for me. So let's say I'm just giving an example. Let's say you said 20 000 for one month. That's just a number, it doesn't matter how much yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So the way is, like he also, what I do is I do like separate day. He paid for separate day, pay for each day and he and he needs to get low price.
Speaker 1:for what do you mean by low price?
Speaker 2:Means like from the price. Okay, a sample like for each day. Ask for 3,000.
Speaker 1:For you. Okay, let's say 3,000 for you. Oh, you're a very expensive pimp.
Speaker 2:I'm an expensive girlfriend and he asked me like 15 000, like low price, like half and half okay. Then I said like no, is that what we talking before, it's what we do before. And then you say okay and then like you're gonna ask low price because the problem like I doesn't have sex with him, or you don't have a sex with him and yeah and pay for just stay just hang out together, just hang out together and I feel like what is?
Speaker 1:it doesn't what we did before, it doesn't fare about me and how long before that you were talking about, like what is going to happen, like before even he came to thailand, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like I don't know, I'm asking yeah, yeah, we're talking about the prize before even before he's in thailand. Yeah, before yeah and then when coming, and then change plans like and I feel like um he doesn't.
Speaker 1:Maybe you know in picture you look nice, then he meet you face to face. He don't like maybe you ugly face to face, not like that. We stay for Shit.
Speaker 2:We stay for a few weeks. I can say and then after that I feel like I don't like to have sex every time.
Speaker 1:You don't have the feeling right.
Speaker 2:It doesn't feel like.
Speaker 1:Of course you're not a sex toy, right? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You're a person. Yeah, then he asked me to a little person is?
Speaker 1:I said like, okay, sorry wait, let me get it right. So when you tell him you don't want to fuck all the time, he said okay, I want to pay you less because of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck sake and then I'm saying like all, no matter what, I don't want your money and I don't want to be like you think I'm a toy for a sec. Yeah, and that's why I told him okay, all right, I'm back to work.
Speaker 1:Looking on this Okay, that sucks, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. You had this experience.
Speaker 2:That like very bad experience, yeah, and I feel like, well, I'm being back to work much better, more than to stay in this situation yeah, it's very uncomfortable, yeah because, like, see if you with them and doesn't, on that time it doesn't boyfriend, girlfriend, just lady in a bar, this is a customer.
Speaker 2:And then, like you see how you treat me and see how I treat you, it doesn't really fair on it. That's why I've been back to work. I did like back to work for a few days and yeah, he's been back back to his country no, like um back to the bar and look for you look for me and then, okay, I give you the same price you ask and then bring back together fuck so how can you trust him after that?
Speaker 1:well, the way is he pay yeah, this is not what I ask. I'm not asking if you pay or not. I say personally how can you trust him after something like this?
Speaker 2:I don't trust in. How do you say that? I don't trust what they said, but just trust from how they act, like how they.
Speaker 1:So if he act better and now he pay money, so you don't care.
Speaker 2:Don't care. I mean the way it's like you just see from if you really love each other as like a boyfriend, girlfriend, that thing doesn't happen. I mean it's like for money and whatever, but the way it's like I'm in him still be customer and lady from the bar, yeah, so I doesn't care about, you're gonna love me or not just money?
Speaker 1:okay, wait, wait, that's interesting because, you know, I had this conversation I will not say with who, but someone from bitchy lily a few days ago, and she's not a young lady, right? And she says she don't believe in love. She says for her every foreigner man she meets it's customer. She doesn't believe in love anymore with foreigners Because many people lie to her and bullshit and say, oh, I love you, and the next day they go fuck other girl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have the same experience. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's hard.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm hard the same as like no, no, I'm serious, I'm not joking, I'm going to say it. Like that night I said a pay bar, like I said well, we meet each other out there, you can now be friends. Then I see him with a lady in 7-Eleven.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a pay bar.
Speaker 2:Take a lady in 7-Eleven yeah, like a pay bar Take her out from the bar and then like your bar, the same bar, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Okay, at least he has some decency that is lady oh okay.
Speaker 2:Okay so.
Speaker 1:We are talking pussy lady, not cock lady. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So like we talk each each other, like okay, we're gonna meet. He said like we can meet after he finished hanging out with friends and I thought like okay, maybe a pay bar, and then, yeah, we meet up later. And then what's going on? Missing for all evening? And then, like I go outside for eat and then I see him with a lady I don't know where.
Speaker 1:It's not like you follow him. It's mistake, right. It's not by mistake.
Speaker 2:You see my mistake, I see them wow and and, from the way it's like we're talking before, like we're gonna meet up when he finished hanging out with friend. So I feel like if I doesn't see them from the mistake, maybe he can lie to me like oh I just meet my friend and I'm tired yeah, I know fuck so that is this make that? That is, make me feel like he doesn't trust anything about them.
Speaker 1:Not that anything but you stopped believing in love Because you're very young.
Speaker 2:That time I was talking about you to stop believing in love in the bar. Remember, and then you said to me like you cannot decide. Yeah, I'm not deciding, I'm not jumping people from just one thing happening. Just one thing happened and that is like maybe that is make a lot of ladies in Patria working a bar for not believe in love.
Speaker 1:that's way, that's why that's a reason it's really hard.
Speaker 1:Like I don't know, I never walked as a ladyboy in a bar, right not yet, at least but I think, like first, when the girls, the women or the ladyboy go walk in a bar, before they start walking, I think in their mind they think, oh, I might meet a nice foreigner, yeah, and maybe I'm lucky and he take me out of the bar and we can have nice life together. And then the reality kicks in. It's like almost everyone is an asshole. Yeah, like I want to ask you a personal question. Okay, normally, when you have like a long term customer, which means not just for one day- let's say, customer, now two weeks, two weeks, most of them treat you like a sex toy.
Speaker 1:No, no, no weeks.
Speaker 2:Most of them treat you like a sex toy. No, no, not most of them, but for me it's like Some. Some of them treat me like a yeah.
Speaker 1:You can say that Tysec, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Some like, okay, like to stay with me for long, but they treat me like a toy, say it has to say every night whatever, blah, blah and not care if you want or don't want, like they think they pay.
Speaker 2:They have to get it yeah, yeah, wow then, but some just stay for long. But doesn't treat me like a toy sex toy, not toy sex toy, a sick toy. So the way is like I'm still keep you know, I'm still contact with who treat me not like a sick toy and yeah, we stay for a long, long time and doesn't have any problem with the pay bar and money to keep me each day like that yeah, but then I guess you have less, less customers because of that right yeah, that's why you stop trust this man and the other man and his friend.
Speaker 2:You know they are assholes and eventually maybe you have only one or two good customers yeah, and I'm just feeling like yeah, and I'm just feeling like, for example, maybe that's it's about like make, make that lady mind who work in the bar like to pay, like like to go for short time, more than a long time.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's, that's the reason so because they go short time, it just okay.
Speaker 2:I know we fuck, I get money and I not have to see him anymore yeah and not about any more, was like doesn't have to think about jealous or boyfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, like that.
Speaker 1:That's why you get jealous sometimes about customers Before I have. So even if you know his customer and only customer, you see him with other girl or lady, it doesn't matter, and you get a little bit feeling like, oh, why he do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but for that thing it's made me feel like, okay, you work in a bar, they are customary, they're not your boyfriend yeah and then you doesn't. You cannot have feeling jealous about that, but jealous jealous about money is gone oh, so I could have this money, but someone else took this money. Yeah, you should just change your mind and so it is money oriented at the end no, no, no.
Speaker 2:That time is make me think like that. First I think about like jealous about love, why he yeah, he with other girl and not with me.
Speaker 1:Like that also.
Speaker 2:I'm sure that when he back home he promised you, yeah, the most beautiful things, yeah but that thing is like it's much, much better to shame my mind to to jealous about love but jealous about money, yeah, and that is a hard life. Yeah, but this is from from me working about. I understand who would like to prefer to go with customer for short time. Would like to prefer to go with customer for a short time.
Speaker 2:Much more than, much more than to go for a long time and you also start to think like that yourself yeah, yeah, yeah, that time.
Speaker 1:And no, I mean now for now I mean now you're out of the bars right you not walk the bars anymore but, as we said before, you do freelance sometime and whatever. So let's say, someone contact you and say, okay, I want you short time or long time, you can decide. Yeah, in your mind you think, oh, better show time not have to deal with it, yeah, yeah, let's meet, fuck, give me money and fuck off yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, is it?
Speaker 2:is it looking like a work more than like a relationship like that, more than fire relationship?
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 1:It's very frustrating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like maybe some guy complained about like why ladyboy or lady would like to go a short time, doesn't like to go hang out. Have a good time. Because of what? Because of you guys, I'm fine, yeah you treat them like a sick toy.
Speaker 1:You treat them like a shit yeah, and if you do take, as you said, if you do take me for a long time and after one or two days you are tired and sick of me and then you fuck someone else and make excuses.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like better, just tell me hey, I don't want to fuck with you anymore, that's it. Yeah, that's it, and that's more, that's better. I think you will even appreciate it. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you for saying that. Yeah, thank you for saying that. Yeah, thank you for saying that. Make me know what is true and then like, okay, I'll leave you, just to stay by your own.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no problem. If you want to fuck again, let me know. You just have to pay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, exactly, but doesn't wait my time to hear about any ex-cubes or something like that. So wait, that's a Maybe. It's just like much better to just stay in the relationship and everything about yeah but if, if I will step back for a minute and I will talk again about scott.
Speaker 1:Right, again, he's not here, but I'm allowed to talk about it. I know two facts about him. First of all, I know he's a sensitive guy. Right, you know him. He's a good guy, he's a good-hearted guy and he does search for a real meaningful relationship. But at the same sentence he also says listen, let's say I be Scott, right, and I'm interested in you, and I say, tim, I really like you, I enjoy our time together.
Speaker 3:But sometimes.
Speaker 1:I want to fuck other ladies. How do you feel?
Speaker 2:I feel like okay.
Speaker 1:But I like you, I enjoy you, but I want to fuck other ladies sometimes.
Speaker 2:Oh, so that is what it's like. Okay, phoebe me, I gotta say it.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, we can stay together. But we doesn't boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 1:So again immediately when they say that he's becoming a customer again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you can't go fuck other lady, but you can stay with me also If you want. You pay that way. He's like because of what? Because you decide to like to go have sex with other lady? No, not decide, he talked with you about it first.
Speaker 1:He asked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he asked, and you would like to go have sex with another. So that is not the way.
Speaker 1:That's not a relationship.
Speaker 2:That's not the relationship.
Speaker 1:Well, there are many kinds of relationships, let's be honest. So it's not a monogamous relationship, right, but some people can be in an open relationship. I'm not saying that's for you, I'm just saying in general. Yeah, in general so maybe some other girl already, where we say, oh yeah, no problem, as long as I can fuck other people too, okay yeah, it depends on what they design yes, it's like but for me it's just that's what I that's like.
Speaker 2:Hmm, look on, trust each other, okay, if, if, uh, okay.
Speaker 3:Scott said like okay, what want to?
Speaker 2:go have sex with other lady sometimes sometimes and, but I would like to spend time with.
Speaker 1:Every night we sleep together, but sometimes I go fuck, okay, so let's say like how are you feeling?
Speaker 2:you think about like um jealous or not?
Speaker 3:me, I mean it's like for a lady. Yeah, again, not everyone is the same like I'm not a jealous person me myself, I'm really not a jealous person?
Speaker 1:Me myself. I'm really not a jealous person.
Speaker 3:Like.
Speaker 1:I understand. If someone wants to be with me, he will be with me, she will be with me and if someone doesn't want to be with me, it's okay, no problem.
Speaker 2:For me. I'm jealous, but look on situation.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:The way is like if you decide to stay as like a customer, so I'm not jealous.
Speaker 3:But decide to stay as like a boyfriend girlfriend probably I'm jealous Because of what.
Speaker 2:The day, that day or that night you with other, but could stay with me.
Speaker 1:But you choose to go fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you choose to go fuck other lady, but you stay, you stay, you stay with me this time'm. But you choose, yeah, fuck, yeah, but you should to go fuck other lady. But you said, you say, you say you stay with me this time. I'm your girlfriend and I'm like why you're why, why you treat me like this much better to let me, you know, like, let me go earn more money, yeah and doesn't have a feeling like about lonely or something like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's very complicated, you know yeah.
Speaker 2:It's very complicated and that's like. That's why I'm for me. It's much better. You say, okay, I go fuck lady or lady boy on this time because, um, I want, okay, well, you want.
Speaker 1:So we stop boyfriend girlfriend and, but in general I I this is very important question because I think our listeners do care about that. Yeah, in general, do you think that it's possible to find love in Pattaya?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Really you don't think it's possible to find?
Speaker 2:love in Pattaya. Love, love is not For me, love is feeling. But the way love abolishes.
Speaker 1:Okay, wait, wait, wait. I asked. You're right, I asked the wrong question. Do you think it's possible to find commitment in Pattaya?
Speaker 2:For me it's hard no.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:That's so sad you know, as like now. I try to you know that.
Speaker 1:We are not going to talk about it Because we said we will not involve your personal life into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I know the situation. But I'm talking, like talking like okay, me and you know many of the same people yeah right, and I know many of them heard the most beautiful promises in the world and at the end of the day, end of the day, nothing is happening. Right, right, but not all guys are bad not all guy let's say you know what, I will be generous.
Speaker 1:Let's say, 20 of the guys that come here actually looking for love yeah, but.
Speaker 2:But the way is like, if you, if you feeling that's a feeling, but okay, you see, okay, that guy doesn't come looking for love, but you're looking for love, you just left them and you just find out and maybe, maybe you lucky, maybe lucky and get match.
Speaker 1:This is hard automatically, I think you know trust anyone anymore no like, even if anyone that you meet online or whatever, or even someone you already know for one or two years, I think you stop trusting people.
Speaker 2:Trust is like trust in what they say and not really trust in what they say. Not at all. I can't trust them from what they do. You told me it can't trust them from what they do. Yeah, you told me. Yeah, it doesn't say that.
Speaker 1:You are saying the same thing that my wife used to say to me. I asked her why do you like me? In the beginning we just met right, and after two, three months, and then we start to be in a relationship.
Speaker 2:I say why do you trust me? You?
Speaker 1:say I trust you, but I don't love you. But you show me, you show me that you are serious about this but you not say about that you were willing to.
Speaker 3:It's not only about the money, but the process.
Speaker 1:You were only with me and you took me out of the bar and you agreed to pay a certain amount that we I still need to help her family or whatever it doesn't matter, I understand wow yeah, is it so
Speaker 2:the lady so the actions from from from. Lady is like lady or probably most of lady, and yeah thing like that doesn't trust anyone. But when you say lady you mean lady or lady boy you mean in general, in general like well, I think it's just most people do that also, like when they have bad experience, so they're gonna stop to trust. Trust in anyone, but just trust is it love or not? From what?
Speaker 1:yeah, but before I ask you if you believe in love in in here, and you say automatically no, I don't believe anymore. No, and you're not stayed here that long only, let's say two years right year and a half what about? The people that walk the bus for 10 years. Yeah, what about them? They?
Speaker 2:I think they don't believe anything anymore yeah, for me, it's just for me, it's just like I. I doesn't trust in what they say, but I trust from, yeah, how they act like or show me.
Speaker 1:But for who working here for a long time, it's like they just stay there by day you know it's like the, the lady I told you before that I spoke in in a peachyy Lily. I asked her like and when you need hug and when you need sex or whatever, because she's not going even with customers, I say what you do when you need that. You know what she said. She said I go pay men, I go karaoke, I pay men to fuck me, I pay men to hug me, that's it. I don't care. I will pay men, thai men that work there to do what I need, and I will be the Thai men that work there to do what I need and I will be the customer, but I don't. I rather pay than be played with yeah, I see I understand.
Speaker 1:By the way, for the listeners, if you don't know, it's a thing here. There are bars that have men inside and those are for the ladies and ladyboys, like they can go, and they pay money for get attention and fuck or whatever with the men I mean that before also really but it doesn't pay any money for me oh, you get for free.
Speaker 2:No, no, no I just hang out with friend how was it?
Speaker 1:huh, it's not weird for you to go to such a place.
Speaker 2:No, I enjoy it I feel, I feel like I just had room with friend okay, but my friend had men by his side so she choose a man? Yeah, she paid for him like doesn't like a pay for half steak, like that. Doesn't like to pay about a thousand by two thousand but pay for drink.
Speaker 1:It's like that oh, so maybe it's not the same that she told me, because she told me she go to this place. Yeah, she buy out the man, she take her to the room, he fuck her, he hug her and then he fuck off yeah, but some, some, some, for it's like a bar.
Speaker 2:But that's not like a bar, it's like a pub, nightclub like that, more oh but you still have to pay some pay for drink yeah, like, uh, the way it's like pay for them and then they can stay for your for hour depends doesn't depends on drink, but is it like I want to know?
Speaker 1:is it like the tomboy bars?
Speaker 2:that I went before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, so in the tomboy bar we were supposed to go together but you ditched me. You remember that you're supposed to, it doesn't?
Speaker 2:matter. You ditched me, you remember, I'm fast asleep.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter, I'm not angry, I'm just saying so. We were supposed to go together, right, yeah? And there it's happening like that. So there is an auction, so all the tomboy's are standing in a line, and then you can say oh, I want tomboy number 12.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have to give them a drink For one, but you had to keep the drink for one or two, like that.
Speaker 1:No, no, before the drink first you have to pay just for her to come. Oh really. So I remember I went one time with one of the ladies in Delirious together and we choose a tomboy, we paid 250 baht. Then she come, stay with us and then you buy her drinks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Similar like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, that sucks, that's not fun.
Speaker 2:But it is like, and they stay for an hour and then they go back Again, again, and then you have to buy them again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, so it's the same thing. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:So well, I see that, and then I see them have fun happy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they are entertainers, right, they will dance and laugh and make you feel good with yourself. But for me it's like I'm just coming in and hanging out with friends and everything I feel like I'm not trying to make you be like your sex alcoholic, sex addict, that you have to pay for men. No, no, no, I mean I cannot say it like.
Speaker 2:That's why I understand who's here for a long time. That's why I understand like, okay, now I know why there's a trust in any life, anything about life with the planet or anything else like that.
Speaker 1:Okay so I will ask you another question. Let's say there is someone that listens to us, right, that actually loves some Thai lady or lady boy or whatever, and he really wants to be in a relationship with her. What's your advice for them?
Speaker 2:For this it depends on how long you are a guy. Let's say they know for two years Two years.
Speaker 1:But now, after two years, he decides wow, I love this person and I want to spend the rest of my life with him. With her, with him, it doesn't matter. What's your advice for him to actually make them feel that it's real?
Speaker 2:the way it's like you just say that, as the as who you're you talk with, who you are being with, like, um, you like to be boyfriend, girlfriend, but yeah, if is it for two years, probably, yeah, probably, say yes, like we know each other for a long time, and then, like, prefer to be boyfriend-girlfriend. And the way it's like you're going to leave the bar or going to pay for a bar it doesn't, doesn't doesn't end the disadvice.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's like for for lady, for normal people in here. Patia, you work, it doesn't matter about like working in a shop, coffee shop or salon, but you know them each other for over two years and one big boyfriend, girlfriend. So yeah, look on, look on how long you're, you know each other and doesn't change yeah, but what, what?
Speaker 1:what should he say to that person in order to make that person believe him that he's serious about it?
Speaker 2:you just do what you do before. I mean, it's's like you be the same person, as you know, from the first time. That's not like okay, I want to be with you like a boyfriend, girlfriend, and then you're talking together for all month, like month, two month, three month, call video call and then like, make a plan, whatever, and then coming up here and then change, change.
Speaker 1:Acting different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, acting different.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is what you mean by stay yourself, like, do as you said before, don't come here, and then get tempted by all the other options you have here. You want to be with that person. Be with that person.
Speaker 2:For me it's like like yeah, because, uh, some people, okay, I had before. It's like say like many words and then like, okay, I gotta come here and stay with you, blah blah. And then for for tuesday, change from the plan is like all the plan is like fucked up. What he says doesn't happen what he plan, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2:I doesn't, I doesn't understand. Sit and talk and then like well, well, maybe it just depends on sit and talk and then like well, well, maybe it just depends on what I did make him have that mind happen and then make him change, or what he did and make my mind change also. So that's why, if it gonna make to be like strong, keep your word. If you promise something, do it if you promise to want to do something, do it, but if you not do it, it's just like because, that's like to make hope don't make
Speaker 1:hope don't give false hope. Yeah, don't give false hope. Yeah, don't give false hope like um okay, I cannot be with you. I'm gonna bring you to be that somewhere that and then you come and you just go to the bar together and that's it not, not like go to the bar together, go by your own and leave.
Speaker 2:Leave me alone.
Speaker 1:Like that, I'll leave lady alone yeah, and she, she waited for you, right yeah, and it's like well, so I'm here, okay, okay, like I had before.
Speaker 2:So it's like coming, make plan everything and then, like he, go by his own and I'm sitting in a room alone.
Speaker 1:How do you feel when this happened?
Speaker 2:and I feel like I'm. I doesn't feel lonely, but I feel like when I'm here, you know, I have room, I have my room.
Speaker 1:I have to wait in his room. Yeah, he's going to have fun yeah and I feel like shit.
Speaker 2:okay, I'm hanging out with my friend, I go blah, blah and then, when coming up, not seeing me, never, not seeing me in the room when you go, you move Blah, blah. It's like, yeah, is it what they can't decide? That it's me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They cannot control me, I understand, but they want to stay in them, it sounds more like you're not a person, you're a bit yeah, you know what I mean by best like yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying you are the dog, okay yeah but oh, stay home, I go do my thing yeah for me and be excited when I come.
Speaker 2:yeah, but I'm not, I don't. I'm not pets feel like it doesn't matter. Just hang out, see friends, stay with who wants to stay with. That's the means to stay with men.
Speaker 1:Of course no, we are not talking about. Oh, he goes somewhere, so I go fucking other man, we're just talking about decency.
Speaker 2:Decency. Yeah, it's like Much better to. Just leave me alone.
Speaker 3:And decide.
Speaker 1:Like hey, pim, listen, I'm going with my friend.
Speaker 2:So see you later.
Speaker 1:You go to your room or whatever, see you later.
Speaker 2:It's much better than just Stay here I go, much better.
Speaker 1:You know, when I spoke with Scott, and not only with Scott actually this advice I gave to a few people. So, I told them that, in my opinion, in order to create a real relationship, out of this situation, which is a sex worker meeting a customer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my advice was try to actually create it. So what do I mean? Okay, she wants you to take out of the bar. Right, she wants you to pay, pay, whatever. I would say you know what. Okay, I really like you. Right here, let's pretend I really like you. I don here, let's pretend, kim, I really like you. I don't like you to work in the bar anymore. So I want you to buy out of the bar, but I want you to promise me that you will do your best to find another job, like a regular job, whatever you want. Go work in a shopping center, go work 7-Eleven, I don't care. I want you to show also the commitment that I'm putting inside by actually finding a way to provide for yourself also. You think that's a good idea? That's a good idea.
Speaker 2:Would you follow that?
Speaker 1:Of course you would say, yeah, okay, I mean, if someone you like, you would say, okay, I want to try yeah.
Speaker 2:I do. I probably do also like well pay. I mean like, yeah, support me every month, like that, then I will do the best I can the bit I can do, the job I can do.
Speaker 1:Maybe I go back study also yeah, of course, but do something, not just stay home.
Speaker 2:And yeah, that's it yeah, because it's it's like waste money. Understand, it's called waste money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm talking from the foreigners side foreigners yeah I will explain so when you want to create a relationship, a real relationship with two person. They have their own life, yeah, so she walks, I walk, right, we. I have my friends, she have her friends.
Speaker 2:It's not have to be oh, I bought you out of the bar and now you have to stay with me all the time no, not like so try to create like a space even yeah, try, but sometimes it's like space even, but it's make like feeling doesn't trust each other yeah, but if let's say, you know me for a long time I tell you listen, let's say
Speaker 1:I already bought you out of the bar and everything and I say listen I'm going with my friends today. I don't know if you want to join. You can join if not can we meet later? I think that's very fair that's, it's fair.
Speaker 2:but you know what I had. I had like we had separate part. Like time you meet, like he's my friend, I meet friend, Then like he doesn't trust in me, he think I don't like man, you think you go fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh and.
Speaker 2:I feel like.
Speaker 1:Wait, did you go fuck?
Speaker 2:No, okay, who I meet you, my friend.
Speaker 1:Who I go to see, as you my. I come from my podcast. Yeah, I know, and then you know talking in general yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then it's like what is this how? You know me for a long time and then you, you doesn't trust in me. Yeah, for, for, for what I do in here and that's kind of your job.
Speaker 1:what we are doing right now, yeah, and it's like is this?
Speaker 2:maybe that's why is this make it's annoying.
Speaker 1:Annoying, annoying Okay.
Speaker 2:Because I trust in them, but then that's trusting me.
Speaker 1:You know that's very depressing in general.
Speaker 2:Yeah and then like okay, well, it depends on that thing, maybe together try to find out what we can do the base, or maybe it's tough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I understand what you mean when I say you don't have to stuck, be stuck in each other's ass all the time and not mean physically, I mean they stay together all the time. Sometimes it's okay to say, okay, listen, you know what I think. Today I'm going to just go with my friends. And if you want to do something? Let me know Like normal relationship.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it's really confusing for people when you are let's say you are a sex worker and I'm a customer right and it can really confuse because some people I will not say the name, but I know some guys that expect that if they pay the lady, she have to fuck with him three times a day how you can fuck three times a day.
Speaker 2:No, this one.
Speaker 1:If not, he's angry. He say fuck off alright, so you're gonna.
Speaker 2:Then is this like how you can fight, how you can fight? Who can hesitate you for three times?
Speaker 1:he can fight, he can fight, so yeah yeah, yeah, but it's that's that will never create a relationship. No, never, because sometimes you're not in the mood and you say, listen, I don't want to fight today. What the problem?
Speaker 2:hey, buddy relax and then feel like and then feel like if you want that, but you want that to make to be a relationship also, what the shit? Yeah, but what you do For three times in a day, it doesn't gonna make a relationship.
Speaker 1:It can If you both want it, but not if it's coming For one side.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I understand that way With the way I have had something like that. Okay, you know what? Fuck it.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah so.
Speaker 1:I have two things to talk about. First of all, I have actually one another thing to talk about, but I want to give a shout out. All right, so a few days ago I will not say exactly which day, because I know why I don't want to say I will not say exactly which day, because I know why I don't want to say but me, you, scott, and another one of our friends, we went together to a karting place.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's called Easy Kart. They have two places. By the way, it's not paid. They are not paying us to say that, right, I'm just telling that because we enjoyed it. Yeah so it's called Easy Kart. They have two locations telling that because we enjoyed it. Yeah, it's called easy cart. They have two locations. One of them is near bali high. Uh, bali high pier pier, thank you. And the second one is near the market yeah so it's an easy.
Speaker 1:It's a cart, a go-kart, racing track, and they have like few options and we paid, each one paid 2000 baht.
Speaker 1:But I don't know that yeah, 2000 baht for a person, but we get three times that we can use it. So we used it one time already, yeah, and we can. You can come the next day if you want and use it again. Yeah, and the carting that we used can go, I think, up to 70, yeah, 70 kilometers per hour, so they are pretty fast. Yeah, and the truck. So they have two trucks, like a baby truck and the regular truck. So the baby truck is 300 meters and the regular truck.
Speaker 2:What we did is 900 meters I'm gonna say that time is so hard. Yeah, it was hard for you.
Speaker 1:You had an accident.
Speaker 2:I had accidents too you crashed into the walls.
Speaker 1:I had an accident from the start yeah, immediately from the start, and then you crashed into the wall and they had to go and actually rescue you, take you out because you stuck under the tires. Yes, but it was first time for you go-karting right, so for me also.
Speaker 2:Well, for me it's first time for you go karting right, so for me also well, for me it's first for drive the car like a, you know, like like a car because it's very, it's not have, it doesn't have power steering, yeah so you really have to fight with the steering wheel, yeah, yeah and that is like you were scared. I was scared. I gotta say, like I scream all the time that's talking about. But you don't cheat yourself, just scream.
Speaker 1:Huh, you don't cheat yourself, you're just screaming, I scream, not shit. No, no, no, no. Maybe it's gonna happen, maybe a little bit it's gonna happen, but I try to not have I gotta gonna say, like I'm screaming all the time, you guys like Scott, you and another friend you guys like drive past me all the time I drive so fast like yeah, but we, we didn't crash into you
Speaker 1:you crashed by yourself all the time by the way, our other friend that were with us. She have like driving experience. Yeah, so she was actually kind of good.
Speaker 2:I gotta say yeah, yeah, it's like so that's how I feel like why you take his car to drive. Yeah, but you need to improve. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Next time you will be better. I promise you, next time you will be better. I promise you, next time you will crash. Only one time, not two times Okay, maybe three. But you know what I really liked about this place, and I'm not joking. Yeah, I like to Cut the tracks, cut the carts themselves, cut everything. This place is open until 1 am, so at night, right? So? You can come nighttime, it's not that hot. Not that hot no sun and you can enjoy. There is good lighting over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's really nice to come at the nighttime and a very nice place also yeah. I will show you how it looks like from afar. I gotta say, like how someone stay from far away and they see my posts on.
Speaker 1:They really take a picture like I'm looking, looking at you from power view, like that really. Yeah, when we were there, someone knew that and they take your pictures no, they take like, not, not my but like the whole racing track from from the sky like really yeah, I show you how pretty in the, how pretty like it's really nice so my at least it's my okay, you didn't enjoy yourself, next time will be better.
Speaker 1:But I my recommendation like, if you want like a chill night and not just go get drunk every day, just give it a try. It's really nice. And again, it's not the parade promotion, we just went up and we really enjoyed that we were in toronto. Yeah, well, I was, I don't know. You were sus a bit.
Speaker 2:I gotta say that it's like it's good to try.
Speaker 1:Next time you will be better.
Speaker 2:Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1:And the second thing I want to talk about. So actually, when you came here, there was someone with me, yeah, and she was like bruised because she had fighting today, yeah, so I want to tell you what's going on today, right, and it's okay because I got permission about this also. So, first of all, today I meet Scott and I meet Michelle. You know my usual guys right. Our friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our friends, and you are busy.
Speaker 1:Our friends what you don't consider them your friends. I mean, like our friends. Yeah, we are a nice group of people, yeah, yeah. So, and you were asleep today, so you were busy, yeah, so we met at Cindy's Secret at 11. Mm-hmm, 11.20, actually, because everyone was late, I'm the only one that came early. And then from there we went to Karyu.
Speaker 2:Karyu yeah.
Speaker 3:Karyu.
Speaker 2:From.
Speaker 3:Karyu.
Speaker 1:We went to Pichi Lili, yep, and from Pichi Lili we went to Boho yeah. Wait, it's not finished. Yeah, from Boho to boho. Oh yeah, yeah, wait, it's not finished. Yeah, from boho. We went to sun. After sun, scott was too tired.
Speaker 1:He say fuck it, I want to go home so scott went home and me and michelle kept like we went to flex and after flex we said what now? Like it's already six in the morning, where can we go? So I want to see if you guess where we go. Six in the morning, epic yeah, we go Epic Bar, we go Epic Bar. So Epic Bar is a bar in Soyexite that is actually opening really late at night and it keeps working until like the afternoon. So everyone that wants to just keep partying. It's not a club, it's a bar. We play pool over there, we have some drinks, yeah, and normally it's a mixed place. So all the freelancers that want to go there they're not actually ladies or ladyboys that walk there, yeah, it's only freelancers. So everyone can go. And it was packed today.
Speaker 1:It was full of people oh really yeah, so I met my friend here, that which you already know, uh-huh and me and michelle was sitting having fun drinking, and then she joined us. She was drinking with us, yeah, and then some other lady boy came and someone that mich already know because he have experience with her. I don't know what happened between them and he knew her and she was talking with him, and I don't know. They start talking with each other and then they start punching each other. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3:Who.
Speaker 1:So the one that was with me and the one that was Michelle with Michelle just start arguing. Each one say something you know there was I will not repeat that word, but very bad words in Thai, like very bad words and then immediately they start like trying to punch each other so we'd separate them, and then they just ran outside and keep on fighting. So both of them were bleeding Right and then me and Michelle Sorry.
Speaker 2:I don't like bleeding. Come on, I'm not showing you anything.
Speaker 1:I just want to describe, and me and Michelle went outside and we walked them apart. The place was packed, so no one even noticed that. You know Well many people know us there, me and Michelle.
Speaker 2:We are regulars over there and Michelle is kind of famous as you know she is, she is famous.
Speaker 1:So everyone knows us. So we went outside, we separated. But can you like why stuff like that happen? Side, we separate them. But yeah, can you like why stuff like that happen? It's always happening like that between like freelancers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you saw that before. Probably I'm. I never saw about fight lady fight, but I'm just saw about fight with, um, yeah, foreigners and customer with Thai.
Speaker 1:This was actually Lao with Lao, but it doesn't matter for me it's like I doesn't think about lady fight before and I try to start, like what happened and like I know something, that one of them was speaking bullshit and said like oh, I fucked both of them, which was not true. Like she said, yeah, I fucked him and I fucked the other guy also uh-huh, so yep, which is not true.
Speaker 1:And she knew it wasn't true. And why you say like that and it started like an argument. Like that, and it started like an argument, but it was like brutal fighting, you know, like punches, and you saw the one in my room before she was bruised all her body was bruised. So if they are, if they are no shorter, they don't like they know each other from epic, I guess, but they're not friends.
Speaker 2:Oh well, maybe it's about like Try to try to be like I'm with them and I've been before. It's like a you're just, you just just show dominance, like oh, I know them, I fuck all of them, which is even if not true, just to show how strong she is, just show.
Speaker 1:Maybe Because I don't think they were drunk no, me and Michelle was extremely drunk Extremely, because you know what's going on when you go out with Michelle and me Like it's heavy drinking all night.
Speaker 2:I know that One time before, so we had a lot of drinking today.
Speaker 1:But, we didn't cause the fight.
Speaker 2:You know me and him, we are relaxed guys, when we go together, we never cause a fight. Yeah, we are very relaxed guys.
Speaker 1:Only Scott is getting crazy sometimes, but he already went home.
Speaker 2:When Scott is getting crazy, you know what can make him come down Give him high heels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let him dance, it doesn him come down. Give him high hill yeah, let him dance, it doesn't matter. Give him high heel and start dancing yeah, let's make him come down yeah, but but it was like in one second, from they're talking together to punching and scratching, and you know okay well, from from I'm saying hi, and then like, yeah, I'm talk little.
Speaker 2:And the way she says, like because before they, they had they had the problem before, oh, they had the history, yeah, the history. Oh, who stay here? She don't want to, she don't want to fight, so that's why that history is just like called out, it's like doesn't talk about this until, like, they meet each other again and then like I said.
Speaker 1:So let's say maybe they had a fight before and now because for some reason they stay in the same table, because me and Michelle, michelle, the fight start again the girl over here the girl over here said they have history and they don't want to have fight.
Speaker 2:So that's why stop talking about that until that lady coming up and meet her again and start talking about that again. And then they are looking for that lady, looking forward to have fight with her. So come, like us, like, yeah, show her off her. And then like, yeah, just have fight, like that to her. So about her about I'm not saying who, right on who, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm talking in general why it's happening like, yeah, they were not competing about us yeah, yeah no, I had my own here this on. Yeah, it's not like we say, oh, there is one freelancer for two guys no, it wasn't like that.
Speaker 2:No, that's like that. It's like about them. It's about them have fight for them, each other. It doesn't doesn't anything about like um about man, it went so fast.
Speaker 1:You know from two seconds that everything okay. We are all drinking at the table to punching each other and scratching so that's why it's not gonna be about jealous men or whatever.
Speaker 1:But something personal something personal and then, like they have history before, I think yeah and, by the way, I want to to say again Epic Bar is a great place. I'm not saying that it's happened. It's the first time I see something that's happening in Epic Bar. Yeah, and it was packed and there is never problems over there. So don't think that when I'm saying, oh, epic Bar, there is always fights. First time I see a fight. Right.
Speaker 2:You've been to Epic well, even with me sometimes. Yeah, it's nice, it's quiet, no problem. Yeah, but maybe that is like a bad day happened. Not bad day, but it's like a bad thing happened in the time. But yeah, it's about impersonal.
Speaker 1:Personal, really, they're gonna say it's very hard, like it was hard for me and michelle, not because we had to fight, right, you know, me and Michelle, oh wait, I'm not as big as Michelle, but we can like kick both of their asses in one second, yeah, right. But we just wanted to separate to make sure, yeah, like, they are not fighting anymore. And the people in the bar, they didn't want to get involved, yeah, yeah, so they just kick them outside, fight outside. Which was even more crazy, they took both of them outside to fight.
Speaker 2:Because what is much better, like you want to fight, you don't fight in my place, yeah, but separate yeah. Separate. Separate doesn't mean they're going to stop, they know, separate for two seconds and fight again. No, I mean kick one of them out. Probably that's not the problem because they know. Maybe they know what they do it's like they meet here and they fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because both of them are very regular for epic bars. Both of those girls, right? So they are regular for epic. Yeah, both of those girls, right? Yeah, so they are regular in epic bars epic bar. So maybe the staff know the history or what, what not, but yeah it was crazy crazy, yeah, and then, after that, you remember when you spoke with me that you are going to come this and it take me a long time to answer you this is the reason oh yeah, because I was like, oh fuck, it's like we have to break them up, you know I hear the sound like a screaming something
Speaker 2:yeah and then like when I tell you okay, later yeah okay is this. That's why I think it's like but first I just buy some food from 7-eleven and then I feel like, oh, probably, maybe I could go oh fuck you, you eat already. I want to go eat soon that time I feel like no, no, I just feel we are going to eat after this episode I do okay, promise me also we are going to eat after this episode. Okay but that's how it's like, um, I think I can.
Speaker 1:I can go to meet a guy.
Speaker 2:Because I want to.
Speaker 3:Finish this and make a podcast, something like that.
Speaker 1:So why don't you come?
Speaker 2:You know what yeah?
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait. You think we don't want you to come?
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I think it's about like I forget about my wallet, whatever blah, blah, blah and then I feel like I'm lazy, but you know we love you, me and michelle and scott.
Speaker 2:We always happy when you come but if I'm being there sometime, uh, if I'm being there and that's how I'm gonna coming and they see, like what the heck fighting?
Speaker 1:yeah, no, I understand, but I, I just make sure it's not like you felt you're not welcome with us. No, no, I'm not. I'm not make sure it's not like you felt you are not welcome with us.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1:You promise me.
Speaker 2:I'm not have that feeling you cannot welcome, but I have feeling I'm lazy person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you are a lazy person. You are a lazy person, but I just want to make sure, because you know, wherever we go, we always call you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that is about feeling you cannot welcome. Doesn't happen, okay, no thank you.
Speaker 1:By the way, boho was empty today. Oh, empty. Empty me, michelle, two more customers, that's it. And scott me, michelle and scott, and two more customers yeah, the, yeah, there's a half friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have friend sent me a message coming up also, but unfortunately that's why sun was half full, not like usual.
Speaker 1:Usual, it's very hard to find the table easy today and flex empty. Empty maybe and it's a big lab right 10 people inside.
Speaker 2:So yeah, maybe it depends on day this is what Michelle said maybe, and it's a big lab, right 10 people inside. So yeah, maybe it depends on day this is what Michel said.
Speaker 1:Michel said like he think, because it's not the weekend not the weekend, yeah, and last time we went there it was the weekend, yeah, and it was completely full. Last time, you remember, we couldn't even find the table. They let us speak.
Speaker 2:Sidney the speaker yeah, yeah, they let us sit near the speaker. Yeah, yeah, it's just like so oh and we met Rich, also Rich.
Speaker 1:You know Rich, rich. So it's the same guy, the older guy that we met last time I will not say who he went with, so he met by mistake. He went to SoundClub and said hey, and we were all together, know me, him, scott and Michelle, but he came along this time ask what happened, say no, I don't, I don't want to take anyone. Like he been in delirious before. Then he went to 69 and then he just say, fuck it, I want to go oh, okay, okay, you know who I'm talking about the other skinny guy, white hair.
Speaker 3:It doesn't matter for the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But still so we met him also.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think I talked everything I wanted to say about today. I had to like take out, take out, take out. I understand.
Speaker 2:I'm coming here and then.
Speaker 3:I want to listen also. Because like yeah, we had like, like a hangout together for last time uh about like uh few days ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, three days ago, and then after that I just I just like home sleep yeah yeah, I feel like I'm missing.
Speaker 1:I'm missing something yeah, well, today you missed a lot not something.
Speaker 2:but yeah, yeah, today I'm a lot.
Speaker 1:But in general I hope the next times we will go out there will not be such a drama as today.
Speaker 2:I don't fucking like this drama you know no drama, no drama anymore, okay.
Speaker 1:So I think it's time to finish the episode. I'm hungry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm hungry also, so that.
Speaker 1:What are you going to eat?
Speaker 2:Kamikai chicken. The episode. I'm hungry, yeah, I'm hungry also, so that, what are you going?
Speaker 1:to eat. Come and die chicken rice okay, so we will see if they have it, I think downstairs okay okay and first of all listeners, I want to thank you for listening to us and, by the way, every time you subscribe to us, it doesn't cost you anything and it's a huge help for us yeah, extremely huge help.
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Speaker 2:Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 1:I already checked everything and there is a nice place here in Pattaya that can accommodate four people, professional studio with professional microphones, with video and everything, and it's going to be amazing. And then, finally, you see how ugly we are excited to show my face.
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