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Bonus Episode - Pattaya Burnout: When Paradise Gets Heavy
Ever felt that strange, hollow sensation when paradise starts to feel like a prison? Mike opens up about experiencing "Pattaya Burnout" – that peculiar emotional slump that can hit long-term visitors to Thailand's famous party city. Though surrounded by endless nightlife and entertainment options, he's been wrestling with feelings of disconnection, financial drain, and the physical toll of constant nocturnal living.
Pim brings her perspective as someone who successfully transitioned from bar work to daytime living, sharing how this shift dramatically improved her wellbeing. The conversation dives deep into what creates genuine human connections in a place where most relationships feel transactional. Can three real friendships be enough when you're far from home? How do you find meaning beyond the bars and nightclubs?
The pair explore how modern life's obsession with documenting experiences rather than living them contributes to our collective emptiness. Remember concerts where people actually danced instead of holding up phones? The discussion weaves through practical strategies for improving mental health – from changing sleep patterns to finding purpose-driven activities and reconnecting with Thailand's natural beauty and culinary delights.
This candid, unfiltered bonus episode offers a thoughtful examination of expatriate life's emotional challenges, the search for authenticity in tourist-heavy environments, and how simple changes in routine can profoundly impact happiness. Whether you're planning a visit to Thailand or just navigating life's occasional emotional dips, this conversation reminds us that feeling down sometimes is universal – but so is our ability to find new balance.
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Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. I'm Mike and sadly I'm still doing this without my lovely, lovely wife Sonali. But you know who's here. Hello, pim, hi, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:I'm doing good thanks, how about?
Speaker 1:you, well, so-so. Normally I say always good, but I don't know, lately, I think, for the past almost a week, I'm feeling down. Now. I don't know if it's got something to do with the episodes that we recorded with our friend John, because it did affect me. It was a very emotional episode. Yeah, yeah, I, I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a very emotional episode. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's very emotional.
Speaker 1:But in my opinion, it's not only about that. Like I'm thinking what are you doing, pim? Is this?
Speaker 2:going to move? No, it's moving automatically. Okay, cool. It's okay, okay, cool, it's okay is this is gonna say like it's the first time I'm um learn how to.
Speaker 1:To start, to yeah, now I, I let you to be in charge on the recording and everything. Yeah, yeah, but don't be, don't worry about it everything is automatically and you just need to focus on our conversation. And you just need to focus on our conversation, okay, so, as I said for the last, about seven or ten days, I'm feeling a bit down, and first of all I want to talk about something that maybe you don't know.
Speaker 2:It's called Pattaya Burnout you heard about this before Pattaya Burn. You heard?
Speaker 1:about this before.
Speaker 2:Pattaya burnout. Yeah, is this? Does this look like a war, something like that? Burnout.
Speaker 1:No, no, Burnout means like something that was burned Like fire. So Pattaya burnout is something that happened to many people that come here, especially for when they stay here a long time. So let's say you're going out and partying every day and sometimes you're drinking and fucking and enjoying yourself and everything. Sometimes you reach a point that you ask yourself why.
Speaker 2:Why yeah the question?
Speaker 1:yeah, the question, the question, yeah, why? And then when you ask why, there are many answers in your mind that you don't want to hear. So sometimes people just get tired of it and normally if you read on forums or Reddit or stuff like that, people say the best way to eliminate Pattaya burnout is to actually go out from Pattaya for two or three days, let's say go to Rayong or go to some island or just even go to another city. It doesn't have to be something like that, just to change the environment.
Speaker 2:I understand.
Speaker 1:So I was wondering first if I have Pattaya burnout. I don't think so, you don't think so. I don't think so because you know me, I'm not drinking too much. Yeah, I know and I'm not partying too much. Normally I don't stay in many, many, many bars. I have one or two bars that I like and I stay there.
Speaker 2:Just meet friends like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, normally for meet friends and sit with nice people and have good conversations. But, to be honest, lately I felt a bit hurt from some people that were close to me and I don't know if it's something that I did personally or just sometimes people get to a certain point that they feel that they don't want to be around you anymore or stuff like that, but I got this feeling lately. This is one thing. The second thing is about you know, when you spend a lot of time here, you spend a lot of money.
Speaker 1:Obviously I mean as a tourist right in the so you have to pay for the hotel, you have to pay for the drinks and the food and the the transportation and everything and you know if, if, if I compare thailand, for example, to my country, yeah, th Thailand is cheaper. Yeah, but everything is adding up right. Right, right so eventually, each month, you spend a certain amount of money, which can be sometimes a lot and sometimes not that much, but you're still. You're only spending.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, that's spending yeah.
Speaker 1:And so this is part of it. So it's the friend situation, the spending situation. Yeah, and also, by the way, don't worry about the sound. I will show you later how to delete the sound in the recording, so you don't have to worry about it so yeah, I gotta say this like it's called, like bonus, is it called? Yeah, it will be a bonus episode, episode yeah so I don't know when we will upload it.
Speaker 1:It might be in a week from now, yeah, but when we will upload it, it will not be on friday, it will be just on a random day, right?
Speaker 2:it's like a, it's like um, it's, it's mike, um, it's mike. Uh, how is it like a? What?
Speaker 1:when you get like a, create it like it's my thing to do this one because I yeah, because um, you guess you say it's a surprise to your listener yeah, not only surprise, but a little bit out of the routine because, normally we only upload on friday, friday, friday one episode each week and I thought like I really care about our listeners and I know some of them are actually enjoying what we are talking about normally and I thought why not doing some sometime in random?
Speaker 2:episode. You know, it looks like a reality, like look like real. More than Every episode we do, everything is real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's just an organic conversation, right yeah yeah, right, so back to your story.
Speaker 1:It's not a story. It's like I wanted to tell you that I'm feeling a bit down. Yeah, what are you feeling? I try to process it and to understand the reason behind it. So another reason that I'm thinking that mostly I go out at night, right At night, I come back, let's say, 5 in the morning, 6 in the morning, and I wake up again eight. I normally I not see any light, right? Yeah, so it might be also this because you know it's very important to to get exposed to the sun sometimes, right, you know, and stay in the night all the time. It's very heavy on the body, is it? Yeah, and I do try. By the way, I thought you would say that I do try to eat better so I not eat as much as junk food as normally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I do try to eat more vegetables and fruit and yeah good, good stuff, good stuff, yeah, and, as I said before, I'm not drinking too much, so I don't think it's the food. So what do you think can cause?
Speaker 2:because I know it's not just something that I feel everyone feel down sometimes what caused you, for example, like a can I say it's like um? Example from my, from my experience when I left the bar yeah, yeah and then I'm changed from usually do night time. I mean like uh for working at night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stay in the night time a night routine right yeah, then change like spend more with day time and sleep at night, spend more day time, and then it's just like it's much better, you feel better, you feel better no, no, I ask you.
Speaker 1:You feel better?
Speaker 2:yeah, I do, I no. No, I ask you, you feel better. Yeah, I do, I do. Okay, yeah, it's just like when you're feeling like you do this, like every day you do, but it doesn't routine For you. It doesn't routine. No, it's not routine for you, but you do it every day because you're's just a routine. No, it's not routine for you, but you did every day because you're feeling like had to do is this, is this like that?
Speaker 1:it was your. Oh, you asked me. You mean, I feel like I have to going out? Go out every night and sit the same three or four bars that I go to. Yeah, no, I don't feel like I have to do.
Speaker 2:And I'm not feeling like I'm missing out when I'm not there. And then it is like you now. You're not usually going out at night now or sometime.
Speaker 1:I feel I'm going less Less and also I not stay up so late. For example, yesterday I came back to my room around two 2am, which is much earlier than I normally go yeah, and then you're, you're asleep and you get up early today. Today actually not, because I had to change rooms- yeah, yeah. So today I waited in my room and watched movie and Like spend your time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until 8 in the morning and 8 in the morning I checked out of my old room and I came to this room, to the new one, which is, in my opinion, is a good room. This is very nice. Come on it. This is very nice. Ah, come on, it's not very nice. We've been to Michel room.
Speaker 2:Michel room is very nice, don't compare that is like another prize, yeah, but yeah, in my opinion it's like is it doesn't? Doesn't feeling like you did that and you're try to change to do like did what? Um, I mean like you not go, you not go late and you're like late, go out night and then you're back room early, sleep and get up early. Is it like um, you're? You say like um, you move room, yeah, and you're watching movie and you know. You say like you move room and you're watching movie.
Speaker 1:I spend more time with myself this is like.
Speaker 2:sometimes people just like do what other do I mean like for people the most people do Like do what others do I mean like for people, the most people do. And you like that, you follow but you don't know you follow them. Can you give me an example? It's like when you see people most people do this, like most people do go out at night and you're feeling like you're here and people at night, yeah, but in this city, I find Okay, let me start from the beginning. This city is very interesting.
Speaker 1:You have many things to do in the night time, the day time, the afternoon. There is always something to do in this city.
Speaker 2:Right. It's a city without sleep Without sleep, you know.
Speaker 1:Everyone can find any time of the day something to do so, but but the night time is the most interesting times, uh yeah, yeah, yeah like I think, from 9 pm until4 am yeah, this is the crazy time five, six depend. There are some I will not name it because we cannot say the name but some clubs here open until one afternoon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so just because Pattaya never sleeps.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, you're partially right. So yeah, when I come to Pattaya, normally I like to enjoy the nightlife more, right? And also, thailand is very hot, and humid and daytime. You just go out after three minutes you're already sweating yeah, you know you just showered, you smell ice, you feel good, and then you go out and you're already sticky. Yeah, you know what I mean yeah so.
Speaker 2:So if you can choose it, you're gonna get sweat, or you can go out night and feeling like night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, night is also hot sometimes sometimes, sometimes, but yeah yeah, so it's more comfortable to go out in the night. And, yeah, if you are spending most of your time in the shopping centers or restaurants or everything is air-conditioned, so there is no problem with that, right, it's not? Problem but when you're walking down the street or you want to just you around or go sightseeing for example From the people that don't like get sweat.
Speaker 2:I can say I'm Thai people, but I'm feeling I cannot stay in that hot place. I mean like feeling hot yeah.
Speaker 1:You would prefer a place like Scandinavia, for example?
Speaker 2:I can. If I can move, I gotta move to like the place have snow every day or like a very cold like canada. Oh, it's not great yeah, is it is it? Is it the way I want? But I'm in thailand. You know what I mean. Is it thailand? So it's all like a can say thailand, always summer, yeah, it's always hot and humid the problem is not only the heat, it's the humid.
Speaker 1:So you're sweating all the time. Yeah, but it's part of this. So this is the reasons. Normally, when I come to thailand, the first month or whatever, I don't know depends on how long is my vacation. So I stay mostly at the nighttime, right, but I do want to change the routine and to see if it will make me feel better. But also, sometimes people get to to feel a bit lonely here.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because, even though you are partying each night and you are meeting new people and ladies and ladyboys- and whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Men.
Speaker 1:Men, yeah, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, there is not too many real connections here. You know what I mean. Oh, yeah, no, like I give an example, me and you. I know we have a real connection, right.
Speaker 2:We are friends.
Speaker 1:We are sharing this podcast and we're going out. We are going out, we hang out together, yeah we are going to dinners as friends, right as friends. There is no like romantic involvement here. It's just being friends and we enjoy that right. But normally you don't find many good connections here, Even with other foreigners. Sometimes the connections that I see in the bars is only about drinking or playing pool together, but there is nothing behind it sometimes.
Speaker 2:Is this like a? For me, the behind is like they made money. I mean it's like they made money. I mean it's like no, no, I mean foreigners to foreigners. Foreigners. Foreigners, Ah, I can understand.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about this. So, for example, wait, I will touch the point that you just said, but before, before, I try to explain. Like you, you know me already, you know friends here, and some of the connections you make here are very superficial and there is nothing behind it.
Speaker 1:Some and some of them are deep, but there is always this distance because, first of all, everyone coming for a different background, different country and like to do different stuff. So I think, if I really, really, really need to count how many people here I do consider as my friends, real friends and not just friends from the bar, maybe three.
Speaker 2:Three.
Speaker 1:Including you, maybe three. Seriously, yeah.
Speaker 2:But because you said you spend night time like many days, many nights like like. You spend night time like like many days, many night like, but you have driven like with the good connection.
Speaker 1:Three people that I feel that my connection with them is genuine is a real connection between two people that meet and have shared interest and we can talk about and there is no pressure about we have to meet or not meet.
Speaker 2:Oh, whenever you feel like you can go meet each other or go eat or go even sometimes go party together.
Speaker 1:Right, I will not say who, but one of our, my friend, and it's a person that you know also, he know where, at which bar, I sit normally right and he always just send me a text. Okay, I will show up soon. Are you there? And he's coming there and we sit a little bit, we drink a little bit, we have fun, and then he goes to his, to his business, you know. I mean he go to do whatever you want there is no pressure behind it. But you know what's that?
Speaker 2:Is this. What was I going to say?
Speaker 1:No, I'm going to say that it's a city that's supposed to make you feel not alone, but sometimes you feel extremely lonely in this city Because, for example and I go back to what you speak about so let's say there is a random farang let's call him Johnny, it doesn't matter the name, right, he comes here and maybe he go out with ladyboys or ladies or men, it doesn't matter who every night, but he pays for that, Uh-huh. And after he pays for that, that's it right, in order to meet them again, what do you have to do? You have to pay again.
Speaker 2:You have to pay again.
Speaker 1:Right, so it's not a real connection. So yeah, it might be sexual connection or not have to be sexual it can only like, for example, maybe he took her for a date right, so he spent money for dinner. Maybe bought her some nice gift if he wanted or whatever, he's still spending money. But there is no connection of like two people, just like we are doing now. Hey, for example, today I sent you a message. Hey, pim, I feel a bit down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm coming soon. Yeah, I'd be like that. Yeah, it's like is this a friend? Yeah, like, is this like a what A friend for each other like doesn't have any pleasure, like you have to pay money.
Speaker 1:you have to, yeah, but not only about the money, about the, the understanding of okay, this person uh need me now, or yeah, or just, you know I give you another example, okay. For example if I will not send you message for one week, you will fucking worry, I know you yeah you will come here. Knock on the door, Mike, you're here, everything's okay, I probably yeah.
Speaker 2:say your message like how about my friend that I've been missing?
Speaker 1:for a little while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that yeah.
Speaker 1:So this is a real connection and it's something that many people that come here, especially if they've come here alone, if they come here alone, without group of friends, they will experience it right. Yeah, and yeah, like I kind of experience it sometimes.
Speaker 2:You know, everyone experience it sometimes, but here, when you are away from your own country, and your own friends or your family or whatnot, and you had to like come in and see new things, new friends. You had to stay alone. Anyone cannot stay alone at a concert. You must have friends.
Speaker 1:You know what? I had a conversation with Guillaume the other day.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Guillaume is again the owner of the Boulogne store. No, I'm telling to the listeners, of course you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know the owner of the bull is the one. No, I'm telling to the listeners, of course you know. Yeah and he. I was speaking with him about this in general and he said that for him is not a problem. He preferred to be alone. Like if you put him in a room alone for one month, he will be so happy, he will be productive, he will do much more things that he normally do, because this is his personality.
Speaker 2:It's like for a call. It's like how do you say that like an introvert person?
Speaker 1:yeah, he is he can go outside and meet friends. But you know him. Even when he comes visit some bars, you, you saw him.
Speaker 2:He comes there, stays maybe one hour, not till one hour sometimes, yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 1:He doesn't even drink alcohol. He drinks his usual drink and says hello to everyone and then he goes. He lives. So some people it's okay for them, but also he lives here for a long time. Right yeah, he lives here for a long time. Right yeah, he lives here for a long time. So it's not a vacation for him. So it's also part of this and it sucks sometimes. This is what I want to say. Sometimes it sucks to feel alone and to feel like you are missing the real connections with people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is this, in my opinion, the way is? I come to Pattaya with my friend and we okay, easy to call it we end the friend because of money. Okay, okay, so the money. What does it matter about share money or rent room, share room?
Speaker 1:together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like roommate share room and we have to pay room for 50-50. Of course, but um, dependency is like in my mind money doesn't make trouble with my friend. For me, money is not going to make trouble with my friend trouble with money Okay. But it depends on if a friend of mine thought about money. Now it has trouble with money with me.
Speaker 1:can you give me an example?
Speaker 2:you don't have to say names, it's like, um, we share room each other together but end of month has a parent, but my friend doesn't have money to pay for it like I have, but it's not, you know, like not until half with the price.
Speaker 1:So so you have to cover the rest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that, it's like a okay. So normally like I'm going to be like asked first, like did you have, maybe have some? You know like you can give me later if I have? You know like, yeah, yeah, we cannot have any like until parent and month. Yeah so what? I had about three, three people, my roommate, yeah, three roommate I have everyone will have to pay the same amount every month but I'm always have like same same experience.
Speaker 2:like friend doesn't have money to pay for it and they ask my money to pay for them and they say, like okay, middle of month I give you back. Blah, blah, blah. And like it's like the time, the time is a limit. Like it's a limit about like okay, this time her can't give me money back and I had to, I had to pay again, yeah, so I feel like so you spent double, double and and you work.
Speaker 2:Is how, yeah, yeah of course, but this is like I doesn't think that it's gonna be, that's gonna make like me and't think that it's going to make me and a friend finish to be friends, but about a half the thing about how I travel with him, about money, it could be better to end Okay. For me it's like like now I'm stay alone for couple years and say I have friend, no friend I'm. I'm gonna say this is you time, use time for a couple years. Probably gonna be third and now I'm learning a lot about.
Speaker 2:Patia connection in people in the Patia.
Speaker 1:I thought like, yeah, sometime you're staying that in a in a nightlife, you know like Patia is a nightlife, so especially if you're walking in the bars, yeah, or even freelancers, I think most of the work at night time so you doesn't have to worry about.
Speaker 2:If you're going out at night, you're gonna know have friend, but you have to worry about if you're going out daytime, you're gonna going to have fun. Yeah, much In my mind. That's why I'm changed to use in the that's interesting.
Speaker 1:I never thought about it so, but I think you're right. So basically, at nighttime you're never lonely, right? No For a time but daytime. Everyone is sleeping and if you are a daytime person, you don't have anyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you see, now you know the reason why I'm changing. I leave the bar. I leave the nightlife, I can say Because we started to have parkette together and it's a yeah, I usually do, we, we we record it on a daytime yeah yeah, like before evening yeah so it's like I'm feeling happy to to stay in a daytime and, yeah, I have friend in a daytime.
Speaker 2:I got like, oh, it doesn't. Doesn't think like if I'm change gonna be great, like now I'm, I'm a person daytime and then I have daytime for all day time I can do like it then first is. I have, or yeah, park parkette with you, and she's like it's easy.
Speaker 1:Not only that. Sometimes you just send me a message hey, I'm hungry, let's go eat something. Yeah, we go eat also. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Go have lunch together and I feel like it is. It is make me feel like I'm spend time and that is good to spend more than spin it, but waste time.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean yes, but it's not really waste time, because at nighttime you're actually making money that in like before, yeah, before.
Speaker 2:That is, it doesn't doesn't mean I'm gonna make make money every night.
Speaker 1:Of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for now it's just like Patea is a low season, yeah, and you can see like everybody's quiet.
Speaker 1:Almost, almost. Listen, the bar you used to work is never quiet. Almost never quiet, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I just asked a lady friend, I go have a, a you know like grill pork grill with them and I asked him about how he's going in a bar and he said like okay, for now it's just like it's the same way, you see, for the last time, because the last time I just been in the bar, yeah, I mean, friend, and go at a party party and yeah, I feel like, and in her pay bar herself to get me off, gives her no like, how quiet is it?
Speaker 2:and yeah much better to pay money and stay home. Yeah after the podcast, you need to tell me who are you talking about not now, and you know, I feel like, um, I don't know her pay or who paid for her and whatever it doesn't matter, but she chose to pay her bar fine in order not to be today in the bar, because she feels like she's wasting time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think she prefers to maybe go out with friends, or maybe even just stay in the room and relax.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that way it's similar, like me had before. Yeah, I understand, because you cannot wake up all night every night I gotta say it's like that Because we are human, for natural human, we sleep at night and wake up at day, yeah, yeah, so if you wake up all night, every night, so body is gonna be like waste, yeah, and you know it could be like tired. And you sleep on day, it's like you lose like vitamin D from the Sun yeah, like that and it's gonna.
Speaker 1:And also, as far as I know, the human body sleeps better at nighttime. It's not about that. It's nighttime. There is no light, so it's more easy to sleep because in each room you can make it dark.
Speaker 2:But our body is used to sleep at nighttime right our body you to use you sleep at nighttime and maybe it's gonna be like that problem also make you're like it's. It doesn't about connection, but it's about like you used to change to back room early and go to sleep early.
Speaker 1:Not only that. Also, I'll give you an example from today. Before you came here, even before I told you to come right, I was hungry. I went to some random Thai restaurant here. I was there alone. I just ate my food alone. No problem Enjoy myself. I watch some movie with earphones. You know, eat my food. I choose very good food to eat Something that I like. So again, I eat, sometimes kung sod, sometimes with fresh shrimp, raw shrimp.
Speaker 2:My favorite one.
Speaker 1:I like it. I like it too much, but I ate it spicy, not like you. I'm a real Thai. No, not like less spicy. No, no, no, I told them it's Sun style. For me like so they put a lot of fermented fish and a lot of chili and it was great, good, and I ate pat khao pao gai, which which means, let's say it's a chicken fried with Thai basil and then you get rice and some eggs sometimes, if you want.
Speaker 1:I just had dinner alone and it was very nice, I enjoyed it, and sometimes it's good to be alone, I agree, but I don't. I, I I know I'm repeating myself, but I feeling down and I try to to make this conversation with you to order to understand how can I feel better, like, okay. So your first recommendation was change your routine. You don't have to be out all night. You can do go out some in the day or just wake up in the day, stay in the room, relax, enjoy your time.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:This is the first recommendation.
Speaker 2:What is your? Second recommendation For me it's like you have to, not like have to, but if you figure it out in your mind, like if you figure it out, oh, I need to do this activity.
Speaker 1:What kind of activity it's like. So for you it's dancing right.
Speaker 2:Not only dancing, sometimes like singing or drawing or maybe like play a game Like you play outside. Yeah yeah. Or watching a seriesi movie. It's like, maybe exercise, yeah, maybe. Well, I'm a fat fuck.
Speaker 2:So I don't exercise much, but okay maybe like go to go to cinema yeah yeah, it's like, it's like you, you can, if you figure it out in a day like, oh, just activity is interested to do, just do it. No pleasure, it doesn't matter what other people say, just do it. If you're happy to do that and doesn't make problems to others, just do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course I try to never step on anyone's toes. My style is not enjoying by helping other people, I see. So yeah, so you. Your second recommendation is just do something right. Don't. Don't stay and do nothing, just watch your phone, blah, blah, blah, blah and what's your phone?
Speaker 2:what's your phone is like you do something, yeah, but if you do that all the time, yeah if you do that all the time, the problem's your phone.
Speaker 1:What's your phone? It's like you do something, yeah, but if you do that all the time, yeah if you do that all the time, the problem is your eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna make the problem to your eye.
Speaker 1:Also it makes your brain rot, I think.
Speaker 2:I can't say I had before. Now I just have hair back.
Speaker 1:No, no, not hair Brain.
Speaker 2:Brain rot. Sorry, sorry, brain, just have hair back. No, no, not hair brain brain, sorry, sorry brain.
Speaker 1:Brain rot mean brain rot when you're for. I will give you an example. Let's say someone that's it all day on tiktok yeah, and you just do like the same screaming, it's just changing the videos and watch some bullshit all the time bullshit and then you feel like, yeah, your brain is getting stupid from that it's like.
Speaker 2:It's like um, you are you. You don't know what you did, but you did that for a few minutes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you're not even aware of that. Yeah, you're not even aware of that. So better, do something a bit more. I would not say meaningful, but something that you find more interesting. So, for example, the other day now I know my listeners maybe will be a bit surprised with that, but I never watched the movie Taxi Driver. Have you heard about it?
Speaker 2:Taxi Driver.
Speaker 1:So it's an old movie, I think it's from the 70s or the 80s. It's an American movie by Martin Scorsese. I think it's his second movie. It's a movie about it's really interesting actually movie it's a movie about it's really interesting actually. A guy that came back from we think he said that he came back from the war in Vietnam Go back to America and he go to work as a taxi driver in New York and at that time New York is a very dangerous and bad place, yeah, and when he see what's going.
Speaker 2:New York is a very dangerous and bad place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just that. And when he sees what's going on in the city he's becoming more and more crazy, a little bit crazy, and then he starts thinking to get guns. So he not get one gun, he get four guns. And then he meets some girl right, and he dates with her first. But he don't know how to be normal people. He don't know how to be normal people, he don't know how to act normal. So, for example, first date he take her to walk around, eat something nice, and then he take her to watch porn movie together and she shocked, she just say what the fuck are you doing, right? He say I sorry, I think this normal. No, you cannot do that.
Speaker 1:And she not speak with him again and then he get angry and then he think he want to kill someone. Oh, and this movie is, is he? I will not tell you the whole plot, right, but it's very interesting movie. I didn't like the ending, but this is another debate, because if you will watch the movie someday, we can debate about it. Yeah, yeah, I never watched it.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's one of the most famous movies in the world, yeah, so I just was laying in bed yesterday, yeah, and watched that movie. I said this is a good time to do something I never did and I enjoyed it why not?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, just do that. This is, this is, this is a way, it's the way, is much more better you just focus about, like, what people are gonna not not about what people are gonna thinking, but it's like people, yeah, but for me it's just like what I gotta do. I feel like I'm bored, I'm like fucked up in a day. It's like doesn't have anything in your mind, it's just, it's easy thinking.
Speaker 2:It's about like it's all on the on the phone yeah, I was sitting and then you feel like you're watching videos like, oh it's interesting to do, just do that.
Speaker 1:Or like um oh, so you say like search for activities Search for activities. Okay.
Speaker 2:For me it's like I can say I do like design fashion.
Speaker 1:Okay, before…. Can I ask you, do you do it on a computer or you do it on paper? On paper.
Speaker 2:Okay, you give me a five of them. Make that with. I guess you I remember about you tell me to do that, make that, make money with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, drawing yeah, I spoke with you about the website that called five. I will not elaborate on it because it's you are not doing commercial for them yeah but yeah, I told you on fiverr there are people that will pay you money to do so yeah, there's.
Speaker 2:That is just like when I'm I'm here that first time I'm interested to do because you know, like you get something from what you really like to do. Yeah, you enjoy yourself From what you really like to do. Yeah, you enjoy yourself right.
Speaker 1:And you actually can make money out of it.
Speaker 2:Right, but it's just like when you feel you like to do it doesn't mean you like to do every day. You know what I mean. But if you change your mind like that is what you like to do when you have free time, Change to like you have to do that every day.
Speaker 1:It's like that it's becoming.
Speaker 1:It's becoming more yeah, I was watching someone on youtube and, as we spoke before, sometimes I like gaming, right, and there is one game I follow I will not say which one because it's not important and I was watching someone that is a professional gamer in that game. He made a lot of money out of this Two years ago. His team made, I think, $2 million in the World Championship and it's divided by four people, so a lot of money, right, but it's a work for him. Even though he enjoyed that, he has to sit every day and play that game for 10 hours or even more, and they had to.
Speaker 1:you know, like learning about you know how to play, how to get wins? Yeah, of course, but this is it's not only about how you play. It's about exactly what you know about the map and where you need to be, and everything the locations and strategies. I'd say whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's going to be like changing from games the game just for playing, have fun and changing to be like really.
Speaker 1:A professional yeah, professional, and that is like a change feeling.
Speaker 2:You know there used to be a game, a professional yeah, professional, and that is like Shang feeling.
Speaker 1:You know, there used to be a game I don't know if you know that it's still playable today. There is still competition. It's called StarCraft. Starcraft, it's an old strategy game, okay, and there used to be competition around the world and then, for some reason, korea south korea became the number one country in it, and no one knew why. And then some people moved to korea to understand what, what is going on, why they are so good. Yeah, because they are training 12 hours every day yeah 12 hours non-stop.
Speaker 1:it's like a walk. They get yeah Right, Because if they win the world championship they get a lot of money back, so people invest money in them. Yeah, and it's like a boot camp, mm-hmm, 12 hours every day, seven hours, seven days a week.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right, it's just like. It's like what I know is, you know, like as we, adult, adult, you know like as we add all I did. Artists you can feel like artists, idol in people I don't okay can call them they are capable artists yes, they have the training to the maximum and they can. They built to be artists or, I don't remember, like a girl group yeah. I grew up. Whatever maximum is like a football. Who I know? Her have to train the trainee ten years, ten years and her the artists of the group.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to, of course, everything that you want to be professional at, especially if it's like an occupation, that there is a lot of occupation, competition in it, for example, idling, as you said, artists or gamers or whatever you have to invest a lot of time inside into it, right?
Speaker 2:so not that. Back to about um in the day. Yeah, I'm here about make money with drawing, yeah, and I'm interested, but you know it's a feeling. It doesn't make me feeling happy or fun to do it for money to do it in the free time. Okay, because how's he gonna make money. It's like it's had to be like looking so well and then like no no, it's have to be looking well in your eyes yeah, but it's changed. It's well in my eyes, like I had to better better.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, oh and so you, you will not feel satisfied because you're you know you're getting money out of it so you feel, oh, I have to do it even better than normal, okay.
Speaker 2:So then it's like um, you just did that and a way thing that is to make you happy to do you know like whatever you do, activities and doesn't make you feel bored to do.
Speaker 1:No, no. So you think like you will much more enjoy doing it for your free time whenever you feel like. Yeah, yeah, and not as your work, mm-mm, okay.
Speaker 2:It's like if you're just going out at night, you're in the daytime. Maybe you don't play games, maybe you're not watching movies, but maybe you're going to look at the cinema in the day. What the movie is? Camera.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or you just walk, know, like walk around beach road. I know it's just, it's just in the nighttime, everyone walk in the beach road. Yeah, but, and many people stand in the beach road, you know what I'm talking about yeah, I do, but in the daytime it's different.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So just maybe change your style. Walk before in the nighttime to the daytime. You're going to see new things. Did you know about the balloon that shows up on the beach?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I don't know when, but it's about a month, two months ago. At the daytime they have balloons. They have a fish, a wall or an animal balloon.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's showing on the beach Pattaya Beach.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And that is the only I have on daytime. Okay, but that time daytime but that time I'm missing because I'm working you are still working, so you just saw it on the social media.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's like I'm missing that thing I really like. Okay, I like art and I saw that as like a balloon on the. It's just on the sky and like many, many, it's like balloons just going up. But it's like that is like a balloon on the sky and like many, many it's like balloons just going up. But it's like, is it called? Like I don't know what it's called, but it's just make it look like animal or something like that, and then it's just beautiful. If I can see from my eyes, yeah, you know and experience it yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not just looking at your phone and see yeah, it's, it is about like your you.
Speaker 2:You do experience from your eye.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in like time I agree, and but you know I'm a kind of person that first of all, I don't much care of sightseeing. So, for example, I will not go to watch the big buddha or some mountain, or this is not my style not myself, but even if I do do watch something beautiful.
Speaker 1:I'm not the kind of person I take pictures, because I fucking hate it. Now you go everywhere, even concerts or everywhere that you go that people see something interesting. The automatic reaction is take phone and take picture or take video. Why, why don't I just enjoy this moment?
Speaker 2:Yeah right, Exactly.
Speaker 1:I don't understand that. You see, you know I saw a video the other day that they compared a rave party from Ibiza 20 years ago or 25 years ago and now, so 25 years ago. There is the artist that playing the music and everyone is just dancing. It is coming for that artist that's playing the music and everyone is just dancing. It is coming for that and now they showed the video from one month ago. No one is dancing, everyone is just holding the phone and take video of the artist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I understand. People are not enjoying it anymore, but they just focus on the memories, but it's not really memories. This is.
Speaker 1:This is like I want to ask you. If you've been to a concert and you took a video, when will you just be at home and watch that video? No, yeah, exactly never.
Speaker 2:That's. That's what I I gotta say I'm a person also like, also like. For me sometimes it is to do photos, but not the photo of stuff like temple or something like that, and probably do like a sky or like a natural thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you will take that photo and that's it. You put the phone back in your pocket and enjoy yourself, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but some people like recording. Yeah, they stuck with the phone back in your pocket and enjoy yourself, right, yeah, but some people like recording yeah, they stuck with the phone and a lot of people from the back they're gonna enjoy. I. I gotta say that that is this. That is as I have when I'm young.
Speaker 2:I'm going like concert around near my hometown and I have everyone to like record and then feel like the way maybe this thing, this thing also, it's made me feel like there's someone to go up because I cannot see that like people gonna, everyone will be like that yeah, the way, like, like, like this also that's why this is the problem with the modern life, like everyone is, is so.
Speaker 1:First of all, there is the fear of missing out. You know that. So people think they have to be everywhere all the time, like something happens, I have to be there. Yeah, and second of all, they not care about experiencing it. They care about telling people they experience it. For example, this is make me crazy, right? So let's say we are going to a concert right.
Speaker 1:A DJ, not a concert, and you are the person that's taking the video. The only reason you take the video is not for you, it's to show other people. You'll be there, yeah, right, right. Hey look, yesterday I was in the concert and you show all your friends and you post on social media, but you're not really be in the concert. You were so focused on taking that stupid videos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta show up to order yeah, you not really enjoy it it's just, it's gonna show off, it's called show off yeah, but it's fucked up.
Speaker 1:yeah, it's fucked up that people don't care about showing other show, as you said to other people. Oh, I've done that. I've been here. I did that Instead of just actually be there.
Speaker 2:It's like you have to realize you're not just the only one there. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, If you will look through my phone, the pictures in my phone or the videos in my phone. First of all there are so few pictures in there, most of the pictures are of people that ask me to take pictures of them Me also and I'm never sitting and taking selfies and stuff like that For me sometimes. It's okay, you're beautiful, I'm ugly.
Speaker 1:So I don't care about taking my own selfies Right, but you will never see picture of sightseeing. For example, I did. I needed to go to cambodia a few few days ago and come back and everyone in the bus that we drove over every time they passed an interesting mountain or there was a very beautiful scene there that there is a mountain, that the top of it was outside but the middle was in a cloud, I understand I was looking at it and thinking, wow, it's beautiful. No one else did that. Everyone else just took a video of that fucking moment with their phones blocking the window you know they're not even looking just to show.
Speaker 2:And just sorry, I'm just like that's why I told you know they're not even looking, just to show Sorry, I'm just like that's why I told you like, yeah, and the way is, I'm missing good things happening in the daytime a lot. Then I feel like, yeah, it could be better if I can spend daytime.
Speaker 1:Can I ask you a question? Do you enjoy the daytime activities more than the nighttime activities? When you walked in the bar Like you are more happy now. You feel you are doing more stuff that is enjoyable to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm probably going to say, you know, like you said, no one likes to work in like you say no one like to work in a bar no one like to work in a bar and someone like, but just for food time, but doesn't want for all life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, no one wants to work at a bar for all life. And for me now I'm feeling better because like, okay, I have time for you know, like spend time with myself and treat myself better and sleep at night and have more time to sleep.
Speaker 1:And drink less.
Speaker 2:And drink less Much less.
Speaker 1:I think you're not drinking now, right? No, that's good you know, like is this?
Speaker 2:like I'm feeling, I'm feeling.
Speaker 1:Healthier.
Speaker 2:It's like at first I'm feeling curious before I come to Patina. Oh okay, is it like you work in a bar? You're drinking every day alcohol, you're so much every night and most of it is free right, because the customer pay for you yeah, and it's like you're gonna be like alcoholist. Of course you gotta be like that for over a year, over second years, but it doesn't, I doesn't feel like I am an alcoholist. It it's like I'm finished working at the bar and after that, okay, I have drinks to spill but not like every night.
Speaker 2:Last night I was going to a party that night I have, but after that no more, and I doesn't feel like I need to drink. I need to drink, I need to drink. So for me it's like I'm happy to find out, like okay.
Speaker 1:I'm okay, I'm not alcoholic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm okay, I'm not alcoholic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know, alcoholism is not only Almost, it's never created by drinking. Drinking Wait, let me explain it's created by a person that wake up before you even have to drink. He drink, let's say, a bar girl bar girl that wake up. The first thing she does she drink beer. Then she go to walk. She drink more, she finish walk she drinks beer, then she goes to work.
Speaker 1:She drinks more. She finishes work, she still goes drinking. Yeah, and you know some people like that, that we know together that like drinking too much. Yeah, this is alcoholism. But drinking because you have to is different than drinking because you want to.
Speaker 2:You want to? Yeah, the way is, I don't want to drink, but I did that because I want to. The way is I don't want to drink, but I did that because I had to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm sure sometimes you put a lot of coke and a little bit of Samsung.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's like. For me, healthy is very important. Say again sorry, I said like healthy.
Speaker 1:Oh, being healthy okay.
Speaker 2:Healthy is very important If you have money a lot if you're a billionaire, but you have ways healthy like your health is not good.
Speaker 1:Yeah so even if you are the richest man in the world, you cannot fix that right.
Speaker 2:For me, in my opinion, who is a rich people, who is very, very have strong body, have strong health.
Speaker 1:And money.
Speaker 2:Come on and money body, have strong and money come on. And money is this. Is it like you, how you can have millionaire but you have to use in Monday because next day you what do you mean? I mean like if it's not a file next day you gonna be like not in you, you gotta be there, you can date dead but you have one million.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you cannot use the money when you die, of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the way it is now, I'm focused on how I can live for long. That's why I'm quite working at night time. Or you can say like quite Quit, quit, it's called quit Quit working the night time.
Speaker 1:Or you can say like quite quit, quit, it's called quit, quit walking the night time quit of the night time and quit about drink alcohol yeah so, and you're not a smoker, so this is good, you're not a cigarette smoker, not, not, not.
Speaker 2:And much plus more about like, much plus more about like. Before I'm working at the bar I gotta do like a little um rum, thai rum, so yeah, and big cola. This time I'm stay. You know, like in the daytime I'm go practice dancing away with myself.
Speaker 2:It's a bottle of water and that thing is also an exercise, it's an exercise also and it's like for me it's I'm I'm used to daytime, I'm sharing um, I'm quit the bar and I feel like, wow, I can drink water. You know like I can drink water a lot, yeah, but I feel like strong.
Speaker 1:You know like I get yeah because you first of all your body get less sugar, because alcohol is also sugar and sugar is not very good for us.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We need sugar sometime, but not as much as, let's say, if you had 10 drinks each day, that's a lot of sugar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, and cola also I can take. Yeah but, yeah, but yeah, I have you know like I like to if I'm drinking, I like to mix with cola.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I've stopped drinking, so cola is not going to be like in my yeah, you just drink water and maybe sometimes I don't know if you like juice, maybe orange juice or pineapple juice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's good.
Speaker 1:No, that's what I'm saying, that now you're drinking. I think you drink more juice and more water and healthy stuff, maybe some shake, some good shakes.
Speaker 2:Probably I like protein milk. What is protein milk? Is it milk? Is it more like protein?
Speaker 1:Okay, so it's milk that is rich with protein.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's rich with protein. Okay, so, because I'm practicing dancing and I had to use.
Speaker 1:They sell that on 7-Eleven.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, okay, so I can say I prefer to drink milk. Yeah, it just helps body have protein more. Because I'm kind of let's eat about me. You can say you can see. No, um, I tell you before, one salad, one. This salad is one meal. Yeah, one meal for me.
Speaker 1:So yeah, sometimes I'm just have like salad yeah, but a few days ago we went to Guillaume restaurant and you did not eat salad you eat one of your best steaks in your life over there the bull, Because this is the first. Second A second.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay for that time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:This is when are we going. The bull, the bull, yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta say like I have like very, very nice, very, very nice Steak Steak yeah, and I'm gonna say I'm not a fan of beef, but this is the first time I tried beef and that is just a very, very nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's a shame I might, about beef, you know first of all, not everyone serving such a good quality of beef here you cannot. And second of all, yes, it's very expensive.
Speaker 2:You know that if you have a good quality beef, stay there. You gonna run a bit, no, of course, of course, of course so yeah, to answer into it and thank you so much for that time ah and so, but normally you not eat so much beef, no, not so much meat, you prefer vegetables um prefer chicken chicken, chicken vegetables yeah, and fruits, sorry, fruit Vegetables.
Speaker 1:Prefer chicken, chicken, chicken, vegetables.
Speaker 2:Vegetables, yeah, and fruits, sorry Fruit.
Speaker 1:Do you eat fruits?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a fan of pebble. Okay, and yeah, mangosteen, mangosteen.
Speaker 1:Of course mangosteen. No, not mango Mangosteen.
Speaker 2:Mangosteen I can say I'm a girl from Fruits City, chantaburi. I have a queen mangosteen and king durian.
Speaker 1:You know that. I know that because the family of my wife sometimes when it's time to pick up the mangosteen, they move to Chantaburi to help with the. They work in the farms there, yeah right, to help with the mangosteen. They move to Chantaburi to help with the. They work in the farms there to help with the mangosteen farms. I'm working also with mangosteen before by the way, people that don't know, it's one of the most delicious foods in the world.
Speaker 2:Chantaburi no, no, the mangosteen, I mean one of the best foods in the world and it's not very common out of Thailand, for example.
Speaker 1:In my country no one even heard about it. Oh really, in America you cannot find it. It's only in this area of Asia that they have it. It's very special for this area.
Speaker 2:I gotta say, like everyone, if you move, if you travel in Thailand, fly mankoteen you can find it everywhere, well, in. Thailand fly mankoteen. You can find it everywhere. Yeah, and taste it.
Speaker 1:But you know, I never tried durian before. Huh, I never ate durian before.
Speaker 2:What was that?
Speaker 1:I never tried durian before.
Speaker 2:Durian.
Speaker 1:Never. I tell you why. One time I buy it but then I go with my wife to eat it. We cut it and it was a bad one. It wasn't good, so cut it. And it was a bad one it wasn't good, so she put it in garbage. And since then I never tried durian huh. I never eat, never try. Why? Why not have chance? No one, I don't know how to eat this.
Speaker 2:I need someone to teach me, okay so you just take a, uh, you, you take, you cut it, yeah, and you just eat it. It's just like it's it's gonna say durian, you, when you, when you eat that after that you cannot drink any alcohol. It's just like it's just have sugar. I mean it's very sweet okay durian, and if you do alcohol it's like a much make too much sugar, your heart will be your heart, yeah, your heart.
Speaker 1:so it's like much Too much sugar. Your heart will beat yeah, your heart. Oh, so it's like an energy drink.
Speaker 2:It's not in a good way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in a bad way, like energy drink. You will feel your heart pumping, yeah and that is going to be like you know Okay. Maybe we and you can eat durian sometime.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:My homie just started to have durian sometime, yeah, of course okay, my, my home. We just just started to have durian, okay this year. So I hope next year gonna be like durian in my farm. It's gonna be like big, huge. Okay, you have your own durian farm oh sorry, I never tell this to other people. I have durian farm and longan farm longan, what is? Longan, it's a lamia, it's just like a I know, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah and other fruit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chili, chili farm still have okay, in my home, but I'm not taking care of that this is all about my family. Yeah, okay, good so yeah, about you. You think, now you get better yeah, because of you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, you're welcome we just did a high five, but not only because of you, but sometimes when you just talk about things, it automatically makes you feel a little bit better. It's our friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you feel a little better.
Speaker 1:It's our friend, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you see a different perspective. And also you have to remind yourself that everyone feels like shit sometimes.
Speaker 2:I have before Everyone.
Speaker 1:And it's normal to sometimes feel down and sometimes feel better. And once again, yeah, sometimes feel down and sometimes feel better. And Once again, yeah, sometimes feel better. And I'm just happy that, yeah, I don't have many friends here, but I have good friends here, some of them.
Speaker 2:Me too.
Speaker 1:And I want to thank you. Thank you, mike, thank you for coming and doing this Bonus episode with me, and I know Some of our listeners will like it and some will say we are just blabbering. But this is what friends do they sit and talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's similar like a granny talking to each other, looking at people walking around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we are not. Come on In a way like that yeah, we are not gossip Come on In a way like that yeah, we are not gossiping about other people.
Speaker 2:Not gossip, we're just talking.
Speaker 1:So thank you, Pim.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Mike.
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Speaker 1:Few episodes already. Few episodes already.
Speaker 2:I gotta say like I'm learning a lot of this podcast yeah, and today you learned how to record also.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I learned it. And I learned it again. Yeah, soon I'll show you how to edit.
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