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Wagyu Wisdom and Ladyboy Lessons: How a Frenchman Found His Place in Pattaya
From premium beef to digital entrepreneurship, Guillaume's journey reveals what it truly takes to build a successful life in Thailand's most notorious beach city.
When Guillaume first visited Pattaya in 2011, he had no intention of staying. Like many tourists, he initially avoided the city due to its reputation. Yet what he discovered was a place with a unique charm – "a big city but a small village" where people greeted each other everywhere. That unexpected connection transformed a vacation into a new life path that would lead him through hotel management, restaurant operations, and eventually to opening The Bull, one of Pattaya's premier steakhouses.
The conversation delves deep into the world of premium beef, with Guillaume sharing fascinating insights about Wagyu production. From the music played to reduce stress in the cattle to the massage techniques that distribute fat through the muscle, these details reveal why true Japanese A5 Wagyu redefines what "melting in your mouth" means. Yet Guillaume's preference for slightly lower grades that maintain "the sensation of eating beef" while still offering exceptional tenderness demonstrates his balanced perspective on luxury.
What makes this episode particularly captivating is Guillaume's candid discussion about expatriate life and entrepreneurship in Thailand. Unlike many foreigners who arrive with unrealistic expectations, Guillaume approached his business with careful preparation, spending years learning restaurant operations before opening his own establishment. His insight that "I come to Thailand not to be rich, I come to Thailand for quality of life" reflects a wisdom that many expatriate entrepreneurs never grasp.
The episode takes an unexpected turn as Guillaume reveals his side business as an OnlyFans content creator, offering rare insights into the digital creator economy. His explanation of how most creators earn modest incomes despite the platform's reputation for easy money, and how predatory agencies exploit content creators, provides valuable perspective on this modern industry.
Whether you're curious about premium beef, considering an overseas business venture, or simply interested in understanding life in Thailand beyond the tourist facade, this episode offers honest, practical insights from someone who has successfully navigated these waters. What would you sacrifice for a better quality of life?
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Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. I'm Mike and sadly I'm still doing this without my lovely, lovely wife Sumari. But again we got Pim here.
Speaker 2:Hello Pim, hi there, welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast.
Speaker 1:It's very easy to remember.
Speaker 2:You should remember it. How are you? I'm good, thanks. How have you been? Yeah, good. How are you?
Speaker 1:I'm good thanks, how have you been? Yeah, Good, yeah always.
Speaker 2:And we have another guest which is also, and I know, I say that a lot, but one of my dearest friends here in Patera.
Speaker 1:We only know each other for about two months, two months and a half but I think we became pretty much good friends. This is.
Speaker 3:Guillaume. Hello Guillaume, hi guys, welcome to the podcast. Thank you, you're welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1:You cannot do that. Oh, I mean for the listener, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, how are you doing? Yeah, fine, thank you yeah.
Speaker 1:Just been back from home recently.
Speaker 3:Yes, I've spent my two weeks holidays in France. I spend my two weeks holidays in France. I always close during Songkran Festival because it's quite very quiet during the two weeks of Songkran, so the staff they can have their break and I can go and see my family.
Speaker 1:Well, the listeners don't really know what you close, so let's talk about it first. So Guillaume owns one of, in my opinion it's my opinion one of the best restaurants that you can find good steaks in pataya. It's called the bull. It's on the third row and I've eaten many, many times I don't know how many already not only steaks. I tried many things, but the steaks are phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are specializing the top quality beef yeah, we had this conversation before, but it's really interesting because I know nothing about that. Right in my country we only get like I will see if we are lucky, and that's it so, and I know from what you explained to me that most of the highest quality meat in the world is either Australian or Japanese.
Speaker 3:Yes, if you take the Wagyu. Of course after there are some countries that have a very small production on some very specific beef, something niche, yeah, a niche, but mostly the top beef is Wagyu. Every country they say, oh, in my country we have the best beef. Even in France we say, oh, we have so good beef, but because they didn't eat beef somewhere else. And as soon as you take Wagyu beef then you know the difference.
Speaker 1:Well, I was honest. My country, the meat is right. I'm trying to oh, we have such a good meat. No, it's, it's regular, and I know when it's a little bit better. You know because you paid a lot more, right. But about wagyu, I know that maybe it's beef.
Speaker 3:I don't know the massage, the cows and stuff like that the Wagyu is the type of the of the beef, it's like the breed so you have. For example, the most common is Angus, black Angus and Wagyu beef. Wagyu beef at the beginning it was from Japan and now they are producing a little bit everywhere in the world. The thing is everywhere in the world. The thing is everywhere in the world and mostly in Australia. It's more like big production, mass production, mass production. When you go to Japan, they have a higher quality, they have a quality that you cannot find anywhere, but it's more like artisanal.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there is different things. First the music. So yes, music, something relaxing to make them relax.
Speaker 3:It's not for make them relax. They don't put Mozart or anything. It's just that if the beef is stressed then it will have less fat. So the beef needs to be totally relaxed. But when you have a farm, the problem with the farm is at any moment you will have a farm, the problem with the farm is at any moment you will have a machine which will be started or you will have some peak of noise which will start them and this will induce stress to the cow. So when you have a music background that will cover any peak of noise, then you delete any stress. So it's not really for that will cover any peak of noise, then you Delay any stress. So it's not really for make them relax. It's just not to have a Uniform noise ground, noise background and don't induce any stress to the animals.
Speaker 1:So no one like chatting at all immediately. They will stop like that, Exactly they are very concerned about the noise.
Speaker 3:Yes because the beef has to be very relaxed. Then they massage the beef not to make the beef relaxed, the massage is to bring the fat at maximum inside the muscle, so that's why they tend to massage the animals.
Speaker 1:They are using machines now, I guess, for the massage.
Speaker 3:Yes, the muscle.
Speaker 3:so that's why they tend to massage the animals you have some some place where they do this by hand, because the Japanese are very, very traditional but with the popularity of the wagyu they tend to do a little bit more with machine and everything. Okay. And the last thing is beer. They give beer to the animal Because of the yeast, because of the yeast, because the yeast in the stomach will produce gas, so the stomach will be bigger, okay, so the cow will eat more and it will get more fat and it will get more fat and it will get more fat. So basically, the highest quality you can find in australian wagyu is marble score. The marble score is all the small fat inside the muscle. So the marble score nine plus, which is sometimes called nine plus or 12 or 13, depends. So that's the maximum the Japanese. They have grade grade a 1 to a 5, the maximum quality you have in A4 I heard a name before A4, yeah, but this one is A4 is not for the paper.
Speaker 3:A4 for the fat so basically the Japanese, they go way above. So most people they know Wagyu by Kobe, which is like the beef to be called Kobe beef has to come from the Kobe region. But also it's not because it has been raised and killed in Kobe that it will be sold as Kobe beef, because Kobe they have an association that will inspect the beef.
Speaker 1:Like an internal inspector that, yes, in charge of that they have a, an association.
Speaker 3:So basically, to have the stamp to be Kobe beef, you need to have the extension and they will say, okay, this one is Kobe beef. If you are not up to the standard then it will be sold as what? Because, uh, not all the wagyu are Kobe but Kobe beef is the wagyu. It's like all the Wagyu are Kobe but Kobe beef is the Wagyu. It's like all the sparkling wine is not champagne, but champagne is a white sparkling wine.
Speaker 1:So it's like Mercedes and Maybach, right, which means it's still the same production, but this is the highest quality wine.
Speaker 3:And also most people. They know Kobe beef because it's the first one that has been exported, and have a name and everything, but it's not the best one. Okay, Basically, you have three beefs in Japan you have Kobe beef, you have Omi beef and Matsutsaka. The best one is Matsutsaka. This is in your opinion, or it's in general, opinion of the top Japanese beef aficionados. Okay, honestly, I tried Omi, I tried Matsusaka and Kobe. For me, I don't taste the difference. The difference is very, very slight.
Speaker 1:So you will not pass a blind test.
Speaker 3:No, no, and I think most people don't pass the blind test. But it's top quality. But for me it's a great experience to do it because it's a sensation that is brand new. When you try the beef, most people they say, oh, this beef is melting in your mouth. But when you eat A5 Wagyu then you know what melting means. You can cut it with a spoon. But it's not what I prefer Now. What I prefer is like Australian marble score 9 or Japanese A3. Which is I guess, also cheaper.
Speaker 3:right, it's. It's cheaper, you have less fat, but you have more the sensation of eating the beef. Okay, for me, it's the the right balance. Do you sorry? Do you speak about texture, texture and flavor? It will it mean it's the right balance for me between tenderness, but you still have to chew the beef, so you still have the sensation of eating the beef and it's also full of flavor. And for people who say oh, yeah, but it's full of fat, yeah, but it's a fat with a full of omega-3. So it's very good fat. It's not a bad fat, so it's very good.
Speaker 2:So I want to know, like, like, how long you had this wrong?
Speaker 3:uh, the restaurant we opened in may 2019 yes, it's been six years, but uh in 2020 we had the covid, yeah, so it was very difficult for a two year, but now it's okay.
Speaker 1:I think for any restaurant owner, you have to really reinvent yourself. Okay, I have a restaurant. Now what can I do without a customer coming?
Speaker 3:in. Yeah, the thing is, when you open a restaurant, you know that you need to have some fans to the start, because you will not have full customers at the beginning. And just when the fans went off and we started to have our customers, then the COVID arrived. So it was very difficult for us. But the good thing is now, even when it's difficult, I think it's easy, because nothing can be worse than this.
Speaker 2:So the more like customer, the more it's just a Thai or another country.
Speaker 3:I've got a little bit of everyone. I've got Thai people, I've got French people. I've got a little bit of everyone. I've got Thai people, I've got French people, I've got German people, people from Israel. Pattaya is very multinational, some restaurants in Pattaya. They tend to work with one demographics, like, for example, I'm French, so I would work mainly with French because they do French cuisine or something like this, but because we do something a little bit different, I don't have a specific people or specific demographic, so I've got a little bit everything, yeah.
Speaker 1:I've seen your menu many times, and it's not only French, it's from everywhere. It's from all over the world.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because on my father's side it was 50 spanish, 50 italian, so you've got a little bit of italian food, a little bit of spanish food, or inspiration. Um, I do a little bit of fish. The thing is, everything that go out of the kitchen I have to be able to test it, because even in the best restaurants you can have a problem. So if there's a problem, I have to be able to test it. So that's why I don't do oyster, I don't do seashells, because I don't like it. So I need to be able to test everything that goes out of the kitchen.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I think what's not only the most interesting thing, but most of the listeners would like to know were you a chef before. How do you come to a different country and open a restaurant?
Speaker 3:It's very interesting. I always loved to cook, but I was not a chef. The difference between a guy who likes to cook, who has skills to cook, and a chef. The chef, he can have a table with seven different dishes and everything arrive at the same time. A cook it will do seven dishes very good, it will be tasty, but he will not be able to take care to to make everything arrive at the same moment. So it's just about the organization of the kitchen. So basically, I do the recipe, then we try with the chef. No, I mean even before. How do you do that? I'm moving to Thailand. I will open a restaurant. So it started a long time ago, it was 2011. I came on holiday with a restaurant, so it started a long time ago, it was 2011. I came on holiday with a friend. We went to Phuket, samui, kopipi, koh Phangan, Koh.
Speaker 1:Tao, all the regular places yeah.
Speaker 3:But we didn't want to come to Pattaya Because of the name. Because of the name, the bad reputation and everything. So we didn't come here. And the last night in Bangkok I had a friend who lived in Pattaya who came to see me and he told me. He said you know, guillaume, pattaya is not what you think. Next time you come to Thailand, come see me, you will see it's different. I said okay. At that time I loved China. I spent one month in the summer, one month in the winter. I love Shanghai.
Speaker 1:It's not new to you all the Asian culture.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm used to it, I love it. So I come on holiday. I plan to come one week in Pattaya and two weeks in Phuket, because I like Phuket a lot and I love Pattaya After one week. Everywhere I go I meet someone oh hey, how are you? And it was like a big city but a small village. Okay, and I like the ambience. So I stay for three weeks and what?
Speaker 1:do you think about the better reputation of Kataya?
Speaker 3:You also enjoy that. I also enjoy that. But yeah, I love to be near the sea, even if I don't go to the beach, I like to drive near the beach. I like the sensation you have always a little bit of hair that you don't have in Bangkok. In Bangkok it's always hot and you have no wind or anything. Yeah, you have to breathe, and in Pattaya it's easy to drive around. I love it. So I spent three weeks there. It was August.
Speaker 2:Back in September I go back to France, so it was a raining season, yes, but in Pattaya you don't really have the raining season.
Speaker 1:Last year was how.
Speaker 3:It's like one day, two days, and generally it rains for one or two hours and it's finished. I remember in Phuket it was one hour, but every day, so you know at 5 o'clock it's going to rain. Even if it was every day in Phuket, that's not a big hassle, because you know it's going to be one hour, so you go to your room. I'm talking about the floodings, but the flooding is what. You come back one hour later there's no more flooding. So I went back in September, I was back in Pattaya in December and after that for two years I did three months in France, one month in Thailand so you left the Chinese alone.
Speaker 3:Yes, and at one moment. I was offered a job to manage a hotel in Pattaya. You had experience in that. No, I didn't have any experience in that. In France I was a taekwondo teacher and in the Federation, french Federation I had a lot of things to do so for the local government, but we call this department is like a province yeah.
Speaker 3:I had a lot of things to do and they offered the job to me. So I asked my students for the Taekwondo if they are okay to take the club. They say okay, we can do this. I say okay and for my business. I say to my friend, who normally take care of the customer when I'm not here, I say if you want, I give you my customer For one year.
Speaker 3:I help you from Thailand and after you can take care. So in 2014, I came working in a hotel there. I was the manager for the hotel for a little bit more than two years. Okay, how was it for you? It was good. Yeah, it was nice. Is it a big hotel? It was not that big, maybe 100 rooms, okay.
Speaker 1:So it was medium, yeah, it was a resort.
Speaker 3:It was a small restaurant. It was quite okay. The main problem when you come to Thailand is to understand that Thai people don't think the same as French people, for example. They have a different way of doing things, different timing, also Different timing and different values. For example, something in France. It's very important to never lie. In Thailand, it's very important to never lose the face. If you lie, to keep the face, it's acceptable. If you don't understand this, then you have a problem, because the Thai will lie to you and you will get angry and you will get angry. But you come to his country, so you have to understand how he functions. That's the main problem with most of the people who are not happy in Thailand. They come to Thailand and they want Thailand to be like their country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you have to adapt, it's not working.
Speaker 3:It's not working. I'm an immigrant here. Most people they say oh, I'm an expat.
Speaker 1:Even the tourists. Even the tourists Mostly, by the way, the new tourists which come first time to Thailand, Not only, but they are everywhere and they are sure, oh, it will be awesome. Beaches and everywhere. But you have to adapt yourself to the culture very quickly.
Speaker 1:You cannot speak with disrespect Like some I will not mention any nationalities, but some people in the country maybe disrespecting someone is more common as a matter of speech, you know, and here they see a taxi driver or whatever and they speak no nice to him and it can get very dangerous very quickly sometimes. You cannot do that.
Speaker 3:And also there are a lot of people who want to live in Thailand. But, for example, french people who are very bad in English, in language in general, you are doing okay and some French people, they come to Thailand to live here they don't even speak English, they don't speak Thai. Don't begin how you can come to Thailand. And the same people they complain when stranger come to France and don't speak French. But you come to Thailand, you don't even speak English, you don't even speak Thai. Yeah, so if it's a problem in your country, don't be the same problem in the other country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but some people are thinking, oh, it's a third world country and they need my money for some reason, which is total bullshit. Right, they can handle very good even without people coming here. So much, especially in Pattaya.
Speaker 3:Okay, and yeah, you're absolutely right and generally the guy who say, oh, they need my money. Is the guy who don't spend any shit, is the guy who go for the cheapest beer and the cheap. Charlie that don't bring anything to the country. So yeah, I worked there for in the hotel for two year and a half and it was sold to some.
Speaker 1:Was it owned by a French.
Speaker 3:It was owned by a French, yeah, and they sold it to Dutch people and I was not getting along with them and one time they wanted to do a power play with me and I left. In 30 minutes I left. The problem is I took care of all the system, but all the system was on my Google Drive, my personal Google Drive. So when I left, they had nothing and I took all the customer. I send a message to all the customer. I say okay, I'm leaving. If you want, I've got another hotel. They will do the same conditions, same price, and I will be there when you arrive. If you have anything, I will be there for you. So I fucked them for about four or five months.
Speaker 1:I bet they were raging.
Speaker 3:They didn't hold during COVID and yeah.
Speaker 1:That's it. To be able to stay, fuck them.
Speaker 3:As we say in Thai, some of them not.
Speaker 2:Some of them not.
Speaker 3:And then one week later I was starting a new job at the Kitchen. The Kitchen it was a restaurant in Pattaya. They had two restaurants in Pattaya. It's a group. Now they have about 30 restaurants in Thailand. They have different kind of restaurants, some like eatery, like kitchen cafe 101, things like that and some very good restaurants like cocot in Bangkok, which is a very wonderful steakhouse.
Speaker 3:They have some restaurants in all the big malls in Bangkok. It's a very big group. They had a branch in Pattaya and they had two branches in Pattaya. The thing when I started working at the kitchen Were you a manager of the kitchen? I was the manager in the kitchen, second room. Humanly speaking it was not that good, but I really learned the job there. If I was not working there, I will not have my restaurant there, because most people when they open a restaurant, they crash because they don't know what they are doing. Maybe they're good in the kitchen, maybe they're good with the customer, but they don't have any indication to see where they are going. In the kitchen we check the stock every day. We have Excel files and every day I know where am I. I know if, just by looking the number, I know where they have a problem or not, and when there is a problem, I know I learned where was the problem For example I was expecting to have the problem.
Speaker 3:For example, I was expecting to have I will not give the real number, but let's say a ratio of 2. It means like if I buy for 1 baht, I sell for 2 baht. So normally when I do my accounting I have this ratio of 2 who have to be there.
Speaker 3:And sometimes it's not 2. Sometimes it's lower. So why? If it's slower? Is because I don't shake the stock good, so I lost food. It's because I overstock and there's me many reasons. For example, during some time you have a lot of provider who are closed, so of of course you have to do more stock. So your ratio will be very down, but you know that after some time it will go up. So all these tools they put in place, you don't like speed in the wind to see where it's going. You know exactly where you're going and it's because I was working at the kitchen that I learned everything I know about the restaurant industry. It was very, very good for for me, yeah, and at one point I was not happy there.
Speaker 2:A lot of stress.
Speaker 3:I stayed for two years. It was a lot of pressure. My numbers were very good, still improving, Even when we doubled the income from year one to year two, and on year two to year three we made more 50% more. So it was still very, very good. But keep pressuring, keep pressuring and I don't like the management method. So I quit and I decided I want my restaurant because I want to work at my rhythm, Because I come to Thailand not to be rich. I come to Thailand for a quality of life. I could have money in France. I didn't leave France because I want money. I leave France because there was something. I was not happy. Money in France. I didn't leave France because I want money. I leave France because there was something.
Speaker 3:I was not happy about in France. So here when I wake up I go to Macro buy the vegetables, things like that. I bring the vegetables and I've got my afternoon. We open 5 o'clock.
Speaker 2:I work till 9 o'clock.
Speaker 3:I worked in nine o'clock as we say in england in thailand I do my rhythm. I want the stuff to be uh no pressure. If I see that there's uh too much work in kitchen, they are overwhelmed. I refuse customer.
Speaker 1:Because sometimes it happened to you before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it happened sometimes For example because sometimes you have 20 customers, but they arrive step by step, so it's okay, but sometimes you have 15 customers all arrive at the same time, so more people coming. So I say, okay, I cannot serve you now. If you want to have a drink, you can have a drink, but we won't be able to serve you before 30 minutes. Yeah, thank you, which is very good.
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, yeah but then in the in the short term, you make money in the long term, they will not come back yeah, of course I mean, so it still happens I I prefer to to be clear with the customer and because when they're overwhelmed in the kitchen, that's where they make the mistake.
Speaker 1:Okay, and when you pay your stake for 2 000 baht, you, you don't want mistake on your stake, so yeah be honest yeah, be honest to everyone, of course, it's very important, especially to the customer we're talking about customers that want to give them the best possible food and service for them to come back. It's very understandable. And then you decided to open the restaurant. I'm sure you we will not talk about the visa and the business side and everything because it's very complicated, and we will not talk about the visa and the business side and everything because it's very complicated and we will not get into it. But you opened the restaurant. How was the start? A bit stressing for you?
Speaker 3:It was a little bit stressing at one point, because I found a place to open the restaurant and I had to go out of the country because when you cancel your visa you have to go out of the country and come back with another visa. So I decided to go to Shanghai with my girlfriend. So we went to Shanghai and normally when I come back from Shanghai I have to sign the lease of the new place. So I stayed one week in Shanghai. Came back, called the girl to sign the lease of the new place. So I stay one week in Shanghai.
Speaker 3:Came back, called the girl to sign the lease One day, two days, three days, nobody I go there. And then the girl I have to rent five units and she said oh yeah, but I have some guy he opened a restaurant. I signed the lease with him already. I said okay, so how I can do, if you want, you can have only three units. I said no, I need five units, it's going to be too small. So I had to find in urgency a new place and I didn't have a lot of money. So I cannot open in Beach Road or Second Road. It was too expensive. So I find this place on third road which was closed for a long time, so I can have good price and uh, basically we start the, the building work uh in march, middle march, and we open in may okay, in March, middle March, and we opened in May.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it took some time yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it was very, very big because we had to. There was nothing here. So we have to build the kitchen, we have to build everything. Some destroy some stairs and it was a lot of work it's total reconstruction of the whole place. Yes.
Speaker 1:Of course.
Speaker 3:It was like an empty unit. So it was yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:After the opening, the stress went down.
Speaker 3:I was not that stressed. It was a little bit of stress and a little bit of excitement.
Speaker 1:Okay, but you did it the smart way and I know that and I will not explain more than that. But I mean that many people that I know personally came to Thailand with their last dollar in hand for the business here and thought, oh, I'm going to be successful, and they had nothing to make it up. You know any mistake that happened. They didn't have the money to pay for that right and I know, that you did it a different way, a smarter way, right?
Speaker 3:And also because I opened a restaurant, and I opened a restaurant because I learned how to run a restaurant. Some people they are like a plumber in England they come to Thailand. I'm opening a bar and because they like to go in the bar, they open a bar. Yeah, no, it's exactly because you like to go in a bar that you should not open a bar.
Speaker 1:One of our best friends, which we cannot mention he asked not to be mentioned opened a bar. One of our best friends, which we cannot mention, he asked not to be mentioned opened the bar because he liked to drink.
Speaker 3:So you know, kind of successful but most of the guy they they don't succeed. Yeah, because the they they don't succeed. Yeah, because the there is a difference between a guy who like to drink but still take care of the customer and still know that he has to work, and every day yeah, and a guy who opened a bar just because he liked to drink and continue to live like he's on holiday yeah, I know what you mean. Like, uh, another bar. We spoke last time. The guy opened the bar with the girlfriend and then every time you come in Thailand, he take the girl to go on holiday, go this island, this island yeah, but if the girl is not in the bar taking care of the staff, the bar is not working because the staff, they don't do anything, so they don't care when they are not there.
Speaker 3:They need the pressure of the boss. So the if you're not here to take care of your business, your business is going down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, many businesses closed Every year. You can find new bars and after six months you come, there is nothing there.
Speaker 3:There is nothing there there is a big sign red sign that says it's for sale. But you know the guys they arrive they say, oh, I've got a great idea.
Speaker 1:I'm going to open a bar, the same as everyone and you say, yeah, but there is a bar everywhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but me, I've got a better concept. Okay, what is your concept? I will have only beautiful girls. And then you look at the guy. You say, but you think the other bar, they have a business about having ugly girl yeah, they choose to bring that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want only angry girls, which you know what that would work.
Speaker 3:Only ugly girls yeah, that's what some guys. Some guys they love it. Yeah, because if you want beautiful girl, yeah, it's very expensive because on walking streets they pay 1500 per day. So if you are able to put 50 000 baht per staff, then ok, you can have the beautiful, but you need to bring a lot of customers to pay the modeling.
Speaker 1:You know most of the guys that I know that come here that are interested in ladies or ladyboys. Yeah, they like the modeling level, but normally they go with, let's say, a 7 or an 8 out of 10.
Speaker 3:On walking streets. They work with the agency, I know. So that's 1,500 per girl per day and they they work for two weeks and after they go to another contract, another other google and something. So most of the bar, in particularly in the sidewalk, they don't have the money to do this, because you can sell the, the 50 bats, and pay the girl 1005 per day, yeah. So, uh, except if you like ladyboys, because the ladyboys is another market. But if you like girls and you want beautiful girls, uh, it's a little bit difficult to find in soba cow because they don't want to go to soba cow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you make it sound like someone that you doaya will go to Sol Boccao and all the ladies are ugly. It's not true. You're just talking, not a model.
Speaker 3:Yes, what I mean is the top lady the most beautiful, even if you go to Sol Boccao many of the ladies there are extremely beautiful. You have a lot of beautiful ladies. Yes, they are not all ugly. I mean, uh, the the the most beautiful, the most beautiful. They work in, uh, walking streets or in the bar, or a gentleman club, or a korean, yeah, or japanese, because, let's say the western and the european, because, let's say the Western and the European, they don't spend a lot of money, particularly in Soi, wakao, soi.
Speaker 3:Wakao they stay all day in a bar drinking 50-batt beer.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're going to go bankrupt. It's a different kind of customers.
Speaker 3:So you cannot make a lot of money in cybercow. It's very difficult because you need to sell cheap and the problem is the landlord when they see your bar full of people they don't know that you don't make a lot of money per people. They just see your bar is full. Next year you're going to pay double. That's what happened with the Area 39. During COVID, it was full Every day. Full in Sao Paulo, and one day one year to another they say okay. It was on Treetown.
Speaker 3:It was called Area 39. The pool was next to it and it was packed, packed. Yeah, yeah, On Tricon, it was called Area 39. In the pool? No, the pool was next to it. Okay, yeah, yeah, and it was packed, packed, packed, because Walking Street was closed and it was the only place open. And then the landlord they say, okay, next year it's going to be double. They say fuck it, we're going to do it ourselves, we're going to move and they go another place.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, it's a problem there, but it's totally understandable because I understand the landlord also. Right, they and especially that the prices went so up in the recent, let's say, 10 years. It's almost doubled everything, I mean the lease contracts and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:If you go to sidewalk, the turnover in the bar is huge. The bar they open close, open, close all the time Because you have some area where the bar are making a little bit money.
Speaker 1:We are talking about El Camino. We are talking about Three Town, Three.
Speaker 3:Town. If we go to Soi Chayapul, you have what?
Speaker 1:One, two bars who are working good, more than that, and most of the bar they don't make a lot, yeah, but if we're already talking about Soi Chayapun, soi Chayapun, in my opinion, became the maker of ladyboy lovers already. Eight or nine nine, which would be in two weeks ladyboy bars over there.
Speaker 3:Really yeah.
Speaker 2:For now, is this like 5? No, count again, count again, count again A bit more.
Speaker 3:We've got 69 bar.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Adelius, yeah, mina.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:DJ, dj, dj, dj, gigi, gigi, 5. Gigi, yeah, yeah. Dj DJ DJ. Gg, gg 5, gg. Where is it?
Speaker 1:JJ GG yeah so one second, guys. We have some technical problem. So sorry guys, we fixed the technical problem so we have GG right now. Count all the mixed bars ah yeah, mixed bars.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because that that's something new, for since a few years before you had a lady bar and ladyboy bar, but now ladyboy are more and more mainstream and it's more accepted by foreigners.
Speaker 1:So most of the bar they are mixed yeah, so yeah, you have many bars and I don't think there is any other soy or street right now in bataya that have so many bars like that. I cannot think of even one street like that, because soy six, you find nothing so yeah.
Speaker 3:So soy six is the. Soy six is the. The shadow of the past, of course, yeah, compared to what it was before. I've been there.
Speaker 1:Yesterday I walked there. I went with a friend of mine to visit his friend's bar and the street was full. It seems to be full, but it was full only with ladies.
Speaker 2:You will not see almost, and it was.
Speaker 1:I'm talking like 9 pm, which should be a big hour, right, almost no foreigners. And the bars. You look inside, yeah, you see many people, but it's only ladies, yeah, only ladies, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, most of the bars they are empty in Soi 6. But Soi 6 has always been an afternoon street. Okay, I remember when I came to Pattaya you can do party 24-7., like you wake up, you eat, then you go soy six in the afternoon For the dinner. You eat something, then you go walking street or soy bocce, then you go to the disco. When the disco close you go to the casino Casino was an after or GP bar.
Speaker 2:No, it's not a real casino. Another after.
Speaker 3:Or the GP bar, and then you go out at noon eat something and go party again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember the time that Lucifer was one of the best clubs you can find here. Now there is nothing like that. Well, some say Juju was okay, but Juju is very small.
Speaker 3:Yeah, compared to Lucifer, you cannot compare the no but I mean the environment.
Speaker 1:The beginning, people told me that Juju was amazing.
Speaker 2:You've been to Juju, I guess, yeah, for a long time they are not allowing the boys inside yeah, really not for now for three months already, but they make all their business with the ladyboy before.
Speaker 3:They don't want the ladyboys anymore, so they're gonna close soon, I think.
Speaker 2:I think for now it's over three months to to have the room like that. Yeah, last time I've been like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, last time I've been to Juju it was a week ago. I will not mention with who because I cannot, but we went there. The youngest lady over there and I'm not exaggerating was 40 years old. This was the youngest lady. It was okay, you know, but the drinks are expensive.
Speaker 3:The music is shit Very loud, you know. But the drinks are expensive. The music is shit very loud, you know, it's not much fun. Yeah, if they not allow the ladyboy anymore, they're not, because it was famous for the ladyboys going there after work and all the guys going there for the ladyboys.
Speaker 2:It's about, like in cyber, how yeah bnr. Juju is near soviet asia right, so it's about like it's on the corner. It's on the counter when ladyboy they are finished work, I I I can't say it because I'm a personal not not go, not be there for just looking for men. I like to be there to just hang out with my friends. I have drinks and have fun when I finish work and sometimes you meet a handsome man. Well, some.
Speaker 2:I can say some Okay, but it's about like we, we just hang out together, we just meet when we finish work, like at the work, and yeah, it was a meeting place, yeah, it's a what a meeting place. But ah, it's about like not every lady boy come for a lookie customers, customers.
Speaker 1:Of course not, we didn't assume that. Yeah, we said before, but it was a place that who did like ladyboys and ladies, because it was mixed. You would go there and find a companion for the night sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's like. It's like maybe, maybe not like they had the bad experience, like trouble, but I did not know what happened before I know what happened.
Speaker 1:Okay, I cannot speak about it. I've been asked not to speak about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they decide to not ladyboy. But yeah, is this better if you're just you know like than just the guy who had trouble? You are right the person, the person that make a problem you know like and just the guy who had trouble. You're right, the person.
Speaker 1:The person that make a problem, you have to pay it, but you cannot pay a whole group. Yeah, yeah, but that's only part of the problem. I will gladly tell you what happened after the podcast Private. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, I had some friends who came to visit me when I was working at the hotel. So the first night we go to a go-go in Walking Street. Okay, we enjoy. The second night we went to a ladyboy bar. It was fun, everything. Third night I tell the guys, I say, okay, where do you want to go? Do you want to go to another go-go or do you want to go to the ladyboy bar or something? They say, oh, they are not into ladyboys, but they say we want to go to the ladyboy bar because we had more fun. Why is that? Why, do you think, Because when we went to the go-go the girls were here for the money, Pay me drink.
Speaker 2:They were nice Voilà.
Speaker 3:Exactly, they are here for business. When we go to the ladyboy bar, some girls just want to have fun, and it was not about the money or having a drink or something, it was just pure fun.
Speaker 1:And when you say fun, you're not even mean sense.
Speaker 3:No, no, it was just funny and the 10.
Speaker 1:Joking playing games, playing pool, I always tell my friends that don't understand the concept of a ladyboy bar. For people that don't like ladyboys, it's like going to a bar sitting with your best friends. They act the same right the best friend. You can drink a lot with them, you can play with them I mean play games or whatever. You can, everything. And it's much. And there is not much pressure, as people think because people might imagine. Oh, they go to a ladyboy bar and everyone starts to grab your cock or ass or whatever Not like that.
Speaker 1:Well, in some places, but most people don't think that.
Speaker 3:The thing is, if you go to a ladyboy bar with friends and that you say okay, no, no, I'm just with my friend, 99%, nobody touch you, they just be friendly and just have fun.
Speaker 2:From me a lady boy, I could say. I want to say like it's about from natural, like I'm a man from sexual born a guy but I born a guy, but I have like my personality or act like a lady, so of course we got a show. It's like we show up about guy personal. Of course we have, so we can do the same way like men do. Of course, yeah, yeah, because we're born to let it die. This is what I say it's like going to a party with your best friends yeah.
Speaker 2:So we feeling it's just not about like just want a man to have sex with, but it's just, it's just good to just have fun with it. Just joking, but if you have a good conversation and be a good friend, so I can say can be a good friend like men and men be good friends like that.
Speaker 1:Or in that case, as you men and ladyboy. But if we're only talking about the topic, I want to be diving into something, even a little bit more interesting. So while you're doing all the stuff of opening the restaurant and everything, you started doing something else as well, right?
Speaker 3:yeah, during COVID, a little bit before COVID, I had a friend who was anFans and she was not very tech savvy so she asked me for help with OnlyFans, so I helped her with the.
Speaker 1:Are we talking a Thai friend here in Thailand? Yes, okay.
Speaker 3:So I helped her with her page, with her page, and I stopped promoting for her in addition to taking care of the page, and I had another girl who contacted me to help her with her page and I did some content with her. So I started filming and acting and everything, and Acting is all acting and everything and acting is all acting.
Speaker 1:Yes, right, okay.
Speaker 3:And she was not very serious. I started working with her. She went from. She made four times more money than before, okay, but still she was not very serious. So at one point I said, ok, we stop here because I'm losing my time with you. But I spent a lot of time. I had some video and said, ok, what I'm gonna do, the restaurant is not making money for the moment, I'm gonna open my page. So I opened my page. So I opened my page and posted the video. You can say the page name. The page was French Baguette with the S, because the funny thing is I wanted to be French Baguette without S.
Speaker 3:But on OnlyFan you don't have OnlyPorn. Onlyfan is not for porn, it's just to. If you have a big community for example, you are a 100,000 follower on Twitter and Instagram you don't make money with it. So if everyone is capable of giving you one baht, you have 100,000. Basically, only fun is how to monetize your community. So some people do porn, some people they don't do porn. Okay, and french baguettes without the s was already taken by a guy who was doing bread.
Speaker 3:Really, yeah, the channel was a bread maker a bread maker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the only fan page on how doing bread.
Speaker 3:So it was funny. And after I'm going to tell you why is french. So I opened my page and I I start to do some collaboration and uh, now it's been five years.
Speaker 1:People don't know what the main thing you do on your page right oh, my, my page is about ladyboys.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, so I do uh with ladyboys. So basically I do two kind of contents content with collaboration. Collaboration mean I have another content creator who need content for her page, so I bring my equipment, I do the editing and everything and we do a good video, good quality, and we share the video on her page and my page. And the other type of content is with girls or ladyboys who don't have only fan page. So because they cannot get money from it, so I have I pay them to act on the video and that's how I, how we do it.
Speaker 3:Uh, most people they think most girls, they open the only fan and they think it's going to be easy. Like I'm going to open my page, people will come. The problem is doing content is 5% of the job, promoting is 95%. And the girls, they don't understand that they need promoting Because when they work in a bar they see it, customers come. So they think if I go to the bar, customers will come. But they don't understand that why people come? Because the boss, he was doing a lot of promoting, going to other bars, taking care of the customer. That's what make bring the customer come. But they don't see this in their point of view. So with, the only, fine is the same. They open the page, they do contents, nobody come and they are just not interested. They do for one week, two weeks, three weeks and they stop.
Speaker 1:In their mind.
Speaker 3:they think, after one week I weeks, three weeks and they stop In their mind they think after one week I will be rich, right, yes, and so, basically, it takes time because you need to build a community and everybody is speaking like, oh, this girl on OnlyFans, she make 1 million, because they only speak about the 0.0 x percent. What you need to know on OnlyFan is, when you make 400 dollars per month 400 dollars you are in the top 40. Top 40 percent. It means 60 percent of the creator are doing less, which is very sad. By the way, if you do 2500 dollars, which is are doing less, which is very sad, by the way, yeah, if you do $2,500, which is in Europe, it's barely enough to live. If you do $2,500, you're in the top 5%. Really, yeah, 95% of the people. They don't make that money.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's crazy. No one tends that.
Speaker 3:you know People in their mind think it's easy and everybody on OnlyFans is rich. But the girl who will make a lot of money on OnlyFans why? Because they have a big community. Yeah, Like the girl who was working for Disney, she makes 4 million in one month because she has a big community. And she said community and she said I have my only fan, everybody go there.
Speaker 3:So it's a little bit difficult for the girl to understand that you need to work a lot, that it takes time and also that you won't be a millionaire. And there is another problem it's the agencies. There is a lot of agencies now and 99% 90% are fake. There's just a guy who looked a YouTube video and he don't know anything about OnlyFans. He just learned on the video that he need to do like step 1, step 2, step, step three, step four, blah, blah, blah. But he didn't adapt the strategy to the model.
Speaker 3:For example, I've got a friend. She was doing $4,000 per month. She was working herself, promoting and everything and she started working with an agency. With the agency she went to $9,500. So she was making more money but she paid to the agency 50%. So in the end she was making $500 more.
Speaker 3:But the agency they don't work on building a community. What they work is on the quantity. They bring a lot of people with. The page is very cheap but they will sell. Video call, they will sell custom, they will sell. So you need to produce a lot. So she was working five times more in video, in photoshoot to promote, to sell the video code and everything for doing 500, but $500 more. You have some girl. This model is okay for them. You have some girl this model is ok for them. You have some girl that want to have more control and to work more relax. They don't want to make too many people and too many production and everything. So basically you can have cheat page. Everything is to sell. So you will have a lot of followers but not many of them will buy. You can have for me, the the. The two.
Speaker 3:Best part is, uh, subscription a little bit higher, but you can see all the photo and all the video full access and then either you put, like I do, 100 all included in the subscription, or some people they do all included, but some special video for extra yeah, like our previous guest did yeah, that's I.
Speaker 3:That's the best because, uh, with this you can build a community. The people they will. They will spend less in one month, but they will spend more in the continuum in one year. They will follow you, yeah, and even if they stop subscribing for one month, two months maybe they will come back. So because the thing is, um, when they work with agencies, they have chatter. It means you don't even speak with the girl, you speak with. Someone in India was talking and pretending, to be here and selling, and so basically okay, controversy about that.
Speaker 1:Like two weeks ago, three weeks ago they said about those chats that they say that some ladies sue them because they didn't know it was that and the people tried to sue the lady. First A false that someone is pretending to be her right.
Speaker 3:And the thing is they will sell a lot of content to a guy, so maybe the guy will spend $200. But he will spend one time.
Speaker 1:He will not return. He will not return.
Speaker 3:But if you sell the guy $20 for the subscription and he's for one year, he will make more money and the guy will be more happy.
Speaker 1:Because he gets more content eventually, let's say every week or every day. I don't know your model, but everyone will get more. And yeah, content eventually, every, let's say every week or every day. I don't know your model, but everyone will get more and more videos in the end.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had a friend who spoke recently and she was doing like a $15 subscription. Okay, but everything you have to pay more. I said, listen, it's like you go to the Mukata, you pay 200 bahts and every time you want to take the meat, take the vegetable, you have to pay more. You go back to this mucata.
Speaker 3:He said no, that's exactly what you're doing. The guy will come one month. He will not come back anymore. She changed that model. Yeah, she changed, she understands and she changes. And the agency is even more dangerous because some of them they are not agencies, as I told you, it's just a guy who watches a YouTube video?
Speaker 1:Do you try to speak with you, for example?
Speaker 3:Not with me, because the thing is, I'm a guy, so they are not interested.
Speaker 1:But no one wants to see you actually.
Speaker 3:Exactly, they want to see the ladyboys, but they are not interested in working with me because I cannot do easily content to promote on Instagram and everything. It's very difficult for them and I was interested. I contacted a girl with a very big account and it was not her. It contacted a girl with a very big account and it was not her. It was a chatter and I really wanted to make a video with her because she has a big account and I was thinking it's good for my page. So I said, okay, I'm ready to pay $400. But I want to speak with her.
Speaker 3:She said okay we give you her telegram, so they give me the telegram for the girl I contact the girl, I say ok she said, ok, we can do. You can send me PayPal. I said why you send? You're in Thailand, I'm in Thailand. I send you a bank transfer. Oh no, paypal is better. I say listen we make a video call and we talk two minutes. Listen, we make a video code and we talk to Mint.
Speaker 3:No, no, I cannot now I say listen, I just want to see your face to see if it's you and full of bullshit. Like I say, okay, you're not her. So basically I learned after because I contacted Michelle that you had last time and Michelle told me that because he had a video with her, she had a problem with her agency and basically her old agency was still having her content and was selling her content in her back and also impersonating her. She can sue them? No, no, because she's under contract still still. First, there is no real contract and you're in thailand. You cannot sue them because they are not in thailand. And I know some other girl who work with agency. They don't even have access to their page. I tell them how much you make per month. I don't know. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's crazy because they just think like it's you know I get it a bit money said that people take advantage of this, those people that doing. They're working so hard in order to to make money right, and they are taking advantage of them and taking advantage of their body also, right? Yeah, I think it's worse than pipping.
Speaker 3:In my opinion it's worse, because I know one girl. One guy opened only fan page for her. She said I will give you 8,000 baht per month. Okay, so basically she got a salary but the guy is making money with her. So maybe he makes 20,000, 50,000. She don't know anything. But because she needs money and the guy tell her I will give you 8,000, ok, I need the 8,000. You know, sometimes people they don't see the on the long term they see what is coming so she said yes for the 8 000.
Speaker 3:So she called me. She said, oh, I need to make photo, I need to make video that you can help me. I said, okay, I come, we make the photo, we make the video and a little bit after I say, okay, how I can take you? What's your name of your page? She don't even know, because the guy opened for her and then I learned that she had a salary.
Speaker 1:It's so sad. It's really so sad to hear because, as I said, they're working so hard for that. More than that, I thought. In my opinion, the industry, the porn industry, got better the last, let's say, 20 years. It used to be a very bad industry before, I mean in the 90s, even the start of the internet, you know, with all the chatterbait and all that, everyone was taking advantage of everyone. And then came stuff like OnlyFans or self-pages that gave the models any model. It doesn't matter who more power on that, but so sad to hear that people are taking advantage of them.
Speaker 3:Only fan was created especially to, to make the the model more free. It means, like you make your content directly to your phone. Yeah, you own it and it's you and your fan and you get the money directly. And some people manage to go in the middle. Some agencies they do a good work, but that's very few of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but even as you said before, 50% is crazy. Most agencies will take 30% and they will be happy to sign a contract for 30% is crazy. Most agencies will take 30% and they will be happy to sign a contract for 30% with someone.
Speaker 3:Normally it's 40%, the agency is 30-40%.
Speaker 1:I know I will not say how, but I know that in the US it's 30% An agent takes for his model.
Speaker 3:But, for example, when I help my friends, uh, I doubled the income for her which she went for she was doing maximum 2005. I went to 6 000 and even to 9 000. So I tell her I say, okay, listen without me, you do 2005. So I don't touch your 2005. Listen, without me, you do 2005, so I don't touch your 2005. If you do more than 3 000, you give me 5. If you do more than 4 000, you give me 15. If you go more than 4 500, you give me 20. Okay, which is still good because she's 11.
Speaker 3:And she paid me on the results. But some agency they take 50, like you you do 200, they bring 250. They would take 50 on the 250, so they bring nothing what I want to know.
Speaker 1:What do you like, not prefer, because I know it's very different, but are you still excited for your shooting days?
Speaker 3:Honestly, what I prefer now is the editing on my computer. You like to do that? Yes, okay.
Speaker 3:It's kind of tedious job, right? Yeah, the thing is all the money I made. At the beginning I was making $50. It took me about one year to make $1,000. But all the money I make I improved.
Speaker 3:So first I improved with the lights. I bought some studio lights to have a better light. Then I bought some cameras. The problem is the cameras. They are not autofocus and I had one shooting where one camera was out of focus and I lose one of my angles. So I went back to full telephone and the telephone is better. You're talking iPhone and stuff.
Speaker 3:Yes, and what I do is I film in 4K with the wide angle and then I zoom in the post-production. And recently I bought some microphone but I'm still not happy with the sound, so I need to work on it. So I really, really improved. And I also improved the computer. I bought a computer specially for editing with double screen, and I use a wonderful free editing software called DaVinci. It's it's like professional the, the free version. You can do everything. It's amazing. And now is what I like cutting the color, the sound. That's what I prefer now, more than shooting, more than shooting for me now.
Speaker 3:Shooting was fun at the beginning. Now it's more like a job. And the thing is, if you fuck, most of the time I tell to the girl we are not fucking, we are not fucking, we are doing a video. Like, don't look at me, you are not making love with me, you are making love with the camera, don't look at me. And when I'm doing the movie I'm always thinking where is the camera? Okay, she moved like this. Okay, I have to move her leg because it's not the right angle of this.
Speaker 3:So I'm concentrated of what on, what I'm doing, acting and everything. So it's a little bit difficult. Some of the girls they don't speak loud enough so I have to tell them louder and everything. So recently I made an agreement with the guy and the guy is the model and me I'm shooting with the iPhone and I buy a gimbal and this way I can make more direction, I can look, I can snap my finger, like this to the girl so she can look at the camera. If they are not well positioned, I can move myself. Before, because my camera were steady, I created zoom and camera effects in post production, zoom and traveling in post-production. No, no, I spend a lot less time because I've got only one camera, so I don't need to change the color or the gamma and everything, and it's very, very easy to edit. That's what I prefer now, but I always love to be on my computer anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you came from that right. Yes, because in the beginning prefer now, but I always love to be on my computer anyway. Yes, graphic designer designer, you have any question for you say, because I mean, compared to our last guest, michelle, very different conversation.
Speaker 2:This is much more business oriented.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and the other one was less business oriented but more the needs and needs you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for me it's just like I'm hearing that things I can't say like I did not have any questions because you're explaining everything already. Yeah, but I think it's good to listen. Of course, who doesn't know doesn't have any experience about Oliphant or about restaurant, about beef, and I feel like I really like to listen and I know like I really like to listen, you know, and I know it's just like, okay, great, you have a creation.
Speaker 1:It's okay.
Speaker 2:But also I know that if one day you decide to open OnlyFans, you have this guy to guide you through that Hopefully other listeners who want to know about Oliphant or we're in the restaurant or eat good, good meat in Pattaya, so hope them listen as far as they come to find the food the restaurant have good meals, beef, everything here. Good restaurant. I can see, because now we're here, yeah, and yeah, I can see how beautiful is in here, Hopefully everyone. If you have chance to come to Patiga, consider having me here.
Speaker 1:The pool on the third floor. I recommend it. It's a great restaurant.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Guillaume you have anything that you want to promote other than the restaurant. No, no, everything going fine, I will see you soon If you guys want to jerk off to some ladyboy porn. French baguettes.
Speaker 3:French baguettes. I don't explain to you why the French baguettes. No, I always be very open about sex with friends and everything. And one time we were with some friend and the girlfriends and we were talking about girls and ladyboys and everything. And my friends they say you should do porn. And they say they start talking about what would be my porn name and one of the girls say, oh, you will be the French baguette. So when I wanted to open the porn, I say okay, I'm going to be French baguette.
Speaker 1:That fucking guy that's making the bread. Yeah, you know, that was fair. But again, guys, guys, if you want to jerk off to some great one as I heard french baguette, and thank you for listening to our podcast you can always contact us in mytiewifebotton at gmailcom. Yeah, and also there is a new feature on Spotify. You can send us actually direct messages for free. There is a title under the name of the episode that you can just press it and say send a message. It comes directly to us. So any questions? We are here. Yes, any closing?
Speaker 2:Okay, so for today, I'm really glad to be here and I'm happy to make podcast today. It's good, good experience and a new experience to know about the restaurant also. So thank you everyone, listener and people anywhere you listen hope you guys have a great day and we will have next. We will have few more interesting few more interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, next soon so thank you guys, and thank you Guillaume thank you very much, guys.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. See you soon see you soon. Bye bye, bye, bye.