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Sleep, Sun, and Sexpats: Surviving Thailand's Heat

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In this refreshing reboot of the My Thai Wife Podcast, host Mike introduces a vibrant new voice to the conversation—Pim, a 20-year-old Thai ladyboy with a unique perspective on life in Pattaya's lively nightlife scene.

Their chemistry is immediate as they dive into the daily realities of life in Thailand's infamous "Sin City." Pim shares candid insights about her routine, including her self-proclaimed status as a "sleep fan" who can doze for extraordinary lengths of time, and how Thailand's relentless heat shapes behavior for both locals and visitors. When just five minutes outside can leave you sweating profusely, air conditioning becomes more than a luxury—it's practically a lifeline.

The conversation takes unexpected turns as Pim reveals her dream of living in Japan, drawn not just to anime and food but to experiencing four distinct seasons—something unattainable in Thailand's tropical climate. Her authentic explanation of preferring Western partners over Thai men offers fascinating cultural insights: where Thai men often focus on day-to-day pleasures, Western men tend to build toward future goals and stability. According to Pim, truly knowing a partner requires 5-7 years of shared experiences, similar to forming deep friendships.

Perhaps most revealing is their frank discussion about Pattaya's bar scene economics. Why do workers sometimes appear more excited to see Asian customers than Western ones? The answer involves different spending patterns, timeframes, and expectations. Asian visitors might stay briefly but spend lavishly, while Western tourists often budget carefully across longer stays. These cultural and economic dynamics create a complex social ecosystem rarely explained so candidly.

Whether you're planning a trip to Thailand, curious about cross-cultural relationships, or simply enjoy authentic conversations about life in one of the world's most notorious beach resorts, Mike and Pim offer refreshingly honest insights from the inside. Subscribe now to join their continuing exploration of Thailand through the eyes of those who live it daily.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everybody and welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. I'm Mike and I'm still doing this without my lovely, lovely ex-wife, sunari. Yeah, I know it's been a long time since I uploaded anything and I'm not doing it with Lada anymore. Sorry, it's been a long time. I forgot her name with Lada anymore. Sorry, it's been a long time I forgot her name. But I have a new guest for you today. She might not be a guest, she might be our new co-host. Please welcome, pim.

Speaker 2:

Hi there, hi everyone, I'm Pim. First time ever in podcast. You hear my Thai vibe podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and might be our new podcast we will see about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, by the way, we are doing it live from Land of Smiles, thailand, and also live from Sin City, pattaya, so you guys know what I'm talking about right, it's like everyone in Pattaya, right, it's like everyone.

Speaker 2:

Have a routine saying every day, every day.

Speaker 1:

What do you mean? Can you give me an? Example's like you're talking about the farangs or about the thais?

Speaker 2:

I think everyone okay doing like a routine. I thought like wake up, do something you want to do the same every day, every day like that also you mean okay, for example, what's your routine?

Speaker 1:

sorry what is your routine every day?

Speaker 2:

right, my routine. Yeah, yeah, I'm listening. It's about like, um, uh, you know, like okay in the beginning, just wake up yeah, it's essential, just wake up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's essential, essential.

Speaker 2:

And wake up, and maybe for me I just wake up, then I play phone, you know, watching what's the news.

Speaker 1:

You like to keep yourself updated with the Thai news or world news.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's like train. Okay, you, you know like trend about fashion in the day or what is going on about friend my friend in the day, then get up and I'm just okay. Some some meal, breakfast play game. It's a normal day, I am have because I'm not working in the daytime.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I work in the evening in the nighttime. Then pass to the evening. Just get ready to work and then working.

Speaker 1:

How many hours do you work every day?

Speaker 2:

Sorry, how many hours.

Speaker 1:

Do you work every day?

Speaker 2:

How many hours? Hours, hours, hours. How many hours H?

Speaker 1:

every day? How many Hours, hours.

Speaker 2:

Hours. How many hours? Hours, all right. How many hours I'm sleeping?

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, my accent is not as good as your accent. It's okay, please, that's all right, don't mess with me, that's all right.

Speaker 2:

Normally I'm asleep for over 10 hours in a day. Okay, I really love sleep. I really I can say like I'm a fan of sleep.

Speaker 1:

You're a sleepaholic.

Speaker 2:

Sleep only Exactly. I can sleep more than 24 hours.

Speaker 1:

I don't believe you. You can sleep 24 hours.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, one day can't sleep past day. How is it possible?

Speaker 1:

I don't I mean regular sleep or waking up, looking for sleeping again. Yeah, right, right, like that, sorry, sorry it's still impressive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like to sleep. I wake up cheaper, maybe take some snack okay then fall asleep again okay I do like that is it? Like I can't say that it's 24 hour, because I'm wake up and I'm just a little while, like just for 10 minutes, 20 minutes, and I go back to sleep it sounds like you're very good at being lazy at bed I'm a lazy girl, ladies, not all, not all of them yeah, not on.

Speaker 1:

Come on, not all of them, don't be so inclusive. No, no, not like that I am.

Speaker 2:

Pim Lazy Girls. So how about you?

Speaker 1:

Well, my routine here is very different from my routine home right.

Speaker 2:

When I'm home.

Speaker 1:

I have to wake up, shower, go to work doing my regular stuff.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so cool. Sorry, I did not tell you about this. I'm still shower, okay.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, good, I wanted to ask. I thought you were just not showering at all.

Speaker 2:

Because when you asked me about my routine, I did not say I'm shower, okay, I put it, I'm still shower also. Wait, wait, I have a good reason. You asked me about my routine. I did not say I'm showered, okay, I put it as they shower also wait, wait.

Speaker 1:

I have a good reason. The reason I say I shower after I wake up because many people say I'm crazy. They tell me why you not shower just before you go bed and not have to shower when you wake up. You can go to work. I say I cannot. I feel dirty after sleep yeah, exactly this is my and many people say no, you're wrong. If you before sleep, you can just wake up, put new clothes, a little bit perfume and go to. I say no, I cannot, Uh-uh.

Speaker 2:

Cannot yeah In the way like okay, here, Thailand, then you know how? Yeah, yeah, the weather in Thailand is very humid have a lot of humidity.

Speaker 1:

It's very hot, very hot, you're just listen, yesterday it was like 33 degrees I just went out from my room for five minutes to go yeah I was already sweating me also.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm, I'm a thai, but you know what? Thai in thailand, winter in thailand is not for me okay and okay, well, that's in in the evening, it's for you. Is it in the daytime? Right, when you go out sometime in a day, you mean in thailand in thailand. Yeah, right to eat something or to buy something, all right but I'm always stay in the room in the daytime because I don't like hot okay I don't like get sweat wet, turn here here.

Speaker 2:

But whatever, when I'm finished, get ready to work. Okay, I'm showering everything in the room. Yeah, in the room, put the air con, you're not showering outside, of course. Right, and I just leave the room, like you said, like just five minutes or ten minutes, I get sweat.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you do Not sweat, but sorry, I'm, I'm, you know, get hot yeah, feel feeling you don't feel clean anymore yeah, and, and that's the feeling clean when I'm leave the room, but when I'm staying in the room I'm so clean because I have aircon and I leave the room, I get feeling like why, why, why my skin is little sticky, feel like gonna feel like I'm going to sweat so I can't say I cannot stay outside.

Speaker 1:

I understand that, but you said before you are a Thai lady. That is not from Thailand for Thailand. So where do you want to live?

Speaker 2:

Where I want to live right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we have listeners, maybe someone will take you there where I want to live, right, yeah, we have listeners. Maybe someone will take you there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I think I want to live in Japan. Japan, japan, this is my favorite. Japan is a Japan culture. Yeah, it's my favorite culture.

Speaker 1:

What do you like about the japanese culture, because it's very changed in the last 30 years it's became from a, from a very industrial country and very work driven country and people yeah to well, they're still work driven, but it's much more like. People know japan for anime and food and stuff like that right now, and they have a lot of problems with fertility right now because they don't have much children.

Speaker 2:

I see, I see you know I read online.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember when I think it was two years ago that they actually pay foreigners to come and to meet the Japanese lady in order to have babies.

Speaker 2:

Oh really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because the Japanese men are not making enough babies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is a problem for the world also Not have new baby or new human in the world.

Speaker 1:

And in Japan especially. They worry that in a few years the old generation will be. You know, we are living longer now it's not like 100 years ago. Now, people live. If they're keeping themselves a little bit healthy, they can live to their 80s, or even more sometimes. And if there would not be a young generation, who will take care of them? You know? And people start really to think about that. So what do you like about Japan?

Speaker 2:

You like anime, you like japanese food. I think about the weather, the weather also. I like japan because, um, you know is it, is it okay? I'm talking about like order. They are get cold, it's very, very cold. Have strong, have Japan, I mean like other other, I mean like other on the western, yeah, but Western, yeah, I mean like in the country of western side, not Japan.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's like cold, but it's cold. Have strong sun but still cold. But in Japan I think it's similar thai some sometime, I think japan has four seasons.

Speaker 1:

Have four seasons, yeah, not like thailand, but for I met a guy yesterday that told me he came back yesterday that he came back from two weeks in japan because he wanted to go skiing.

Speaker 2:

Ah, he goes skiing japan yeah, I, I want, I want to do that also. You know, not happen in thailand, never happened in thailand, is this would be nice? If I'm staying in japan, I can play skis also, and I think snowboard will fit you better.

Speaker 1:

But okay, it's no hard, you know yeah it's no more.

Speaker 2:

And right, snowballs is it. Is it like a new how I can say I never did that in. Thailand, because it never happened no, no, no, never has, no is High. Yeah, then, to not far from home and and I say like, um, I, how to say that?

Speaker 1:

like, not far from home, not far from thailand, yeah and about food. It's a very nice, you tried japanese food before?

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1:

What's your favorite Japanese food? And please don't say sushi.

Speaker 2:

No, I like how do you say it? It's called udon.

Speaker 1:

Udon, yeah, udon. Noodle, yeah, udon noodle.

Speaker 2:

Is it ramen Ramen? I love ramen, I love udon.

Speaker 1:

Ramen is the best, by the way, guys I don't know if you know there are a few very good, extremely good ramen places here in pattaya I will not name them, but they are another level, like it's. I think it's. You can compare it to real japanese ramen in japan like the owners are japanese, so so.

Speaker 2:

So where is it?

Speaker 1:

I can tell you one of them. One of them is placed exactly between the north road of Pattaya.

Speaker 2:

North snow.

Speaker 1:

Pattaya Thai.

Speaker 2:

Pattaya Thai.

Speaker 1:

And the beach road. Just in the corner there is a big Japanese shop over there. It looks Japanese. And they sell one of the best ramen you can find here, and also they sell cold ramen for people that like cold ramen.

Speaker 2:

Cold ramen, yeah, cold ramen. Is it about food in Japan? And what are the reasons why I want to go to Japan? Because my mom, her dream is to be in Japan for one time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, so you inherited her dream. Like she was always talking about Japan.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and it became part of you, yeah it makes me like, okay, if I want to live in somewhere, I want to live in somewhere, I want to live in.

Speaker 1:

Japan Okay.

Speaker 2:

For everything Except for me.

Speaker 1:

Where in Japan, do you know?

Speaker 2:

Do you? I think I Would be like Tokyo.

Speaker 1:

Okay, is it? Is it like? I thought it Will be your obvious answer.

Speaker 2:

Not Not. Another person like has spatial place, because if I'm staying at some place and then I can go around there it's not the problem. Yeah, but stay in a place like um you like the big cities, the big city.

Speaker 1:

for example, if you, if you had infinite money, okay, but you have to stay in th, would you live in Bangkok?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Why not Because? It's very similar to Tokyo. It's a big city with a lot of people, very crowded.

Speaker 2:

But the weather is not the same, is it?

Speaker 1:

The water, the weather, the weather is not the same, so that's why. And the pollution?

Speaker 2:

is not the same.

Speaker 1:

The pollution in Bangkok is a known problem. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So if I have money, infinite money, I think I would say other places in Bangkok, because well, we can shoot, better live. Tell me where For our listeners that have infinite money.

Speaker 1:

I want to know where would you recommend them to live in Thailand, it would be northern For me.

Speaker 2:

I like the weather.

Speaker 1:

North Isan or north-north Thailand, north-north.

Speaker 2:

Thailand, so I like the weather.

Speaker 1:

It's a bit cooler, yeah, yeah it's a little bit cool.

Speaker 2:

More than that, yeah, yeah, and longer than patia, is it north and near, near china?

Speaker 1:

yeah right, no, no okay, sorry, you, I think you mean around, for example, chiang Mai, chiang Rai. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's the area. If I can, I want to stay in life with it Because I think the weather and the culture in it's a bit different. It's a bit different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I see people around there. So nice, lovely have you been there? Before Never.

Speaker 1:

You've never been to the lab, but have friends go to study around there. Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or some staff in the lab I work with. They are from Northern also.

Speaker 1:

Okay, by the way, we got a request to please don't pen shell which bar you work in.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

We cannot say at which bar you work.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so it's very important. I'm just saying that to you and to our listeners. That is something.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 1:

Because of previous mistake we done with lada, we cannot share so much personal information of where people live or where they walk.

Speaker 2:

I can't understand, so they show me how is this life going on there, and I think that is good for it's more relaxed more relaxed, more relaxed, but still have big city also.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But still relaxed also. And the food is different. The food is the best, the northern food is the best. Northern, not I cannot say the best for order, but in my mind, in your opinion, yeah, in my opinion, you prefer the northern food.

Speaker 1:

Northern food Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Interesting, interesting, yeah, interesting. I think I had only two dishes from maybe three because lada, my previous co-host she was from the northern areas, so she explained to me a little bit about this and also I cooked. I ate some of that food he tried to, yeah, but I prefer Isan food.

Speaker 2:

I really prefer Isan food Okay, so it depends on culture depends on the person, right, of course?

Speaker 1:

Of course it's a matter of taste. Come on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I can say I'm a half of a. How do you say, like North?

Speaker 1:

Northern.

Speaker 2:

North, northern, yeah, yeah, isan isan okay, can call isan. I'm a half from isan, okay, and half from um how to say like um around here, also around, but yeah okay, so it's from the center of thailand so I can say about my country home yeah, okay. I'm a home country, so I'm from to temporary Thailand. Yeah, so it's just near Bangkok also, okay, and my dad from Eastern. Okay, right it so. I am right, right it right it.

Speaker 1:

So my parent is a Thai son, but I like no actually called mixed here yeah, come on, come here because I know there's the Thai people and they sound people and the northern people and it's very different, differently.

Speaker 2:

So you can say mix, yeah, you can say half in Thai Thai half. But not other country, in Thai, not the same culture. But I like northern food, I like northern guy, also Northern guy. Why? He look, how do you say that? Like Looking White? He look, how do you say that? Like looking white? I mean, I mean, I mean.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're such a typical Thai Just because of the skin color.

Speaker 2:

No, no, not like that You're racist, you're racist. I don't say I don't say I don't like tan skin, okay, but if I prefer, if I prefer, I prefer northern guy, because how them, how them, you know them culture, yeah their mentality, their culture.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's slowly simple, you know. Yeah, but the same way my dad, Okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, he can form a way, my dad, that's why. That's why. But I want to ask you a question, mm-hmm, and this question it might be controversial do you prefer for runs over ties really, I'm not mean as people that you you know customers, I mean in your personal life, what, what would you prefer as a partner?

Speaker 2:

I thought it's about foreign more, foreign more.

Speaker 1:

You can say Asia in general, if you prefer Asian looking guys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I understand, but I thought it's not about nationality. Okay, um nationality, okay, I think, is it for me. If I prefer a partner, my life it depends on the person personality yeah no matter why you're from Asia, okay, but we are talking in the matter of looks.

Speaker 1:

I understand you try to be politically correct and you try to show oh, I'm such a lovely lady, come on. If you try to be politically correct and you try to show oh, I'm such a lovely lady, come on. If you have to stay with someone for the rest of your life, how would you want him to look like?

Speaker 2:

Farang For my type.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, for your type.

Speaker 2:

Farang would be better.

Speaker 1:

Tall, blonde, blue eyes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, white skin. I forget to say white eyes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, white skin. I forget to say white skin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I say that because what? But right, yeah, and so culture, I thought, like foreign people, they are, they are, they are have, you know, trust in themselves.

Speaker 1:

I think confidence it's called confidence yeah in man.

Speaker 2:

In my experience I talk with some guy. They are have confidence more than how I have, more than you, more than how I have.

Speaker 1:

More than you.

Speaker 2:

More than me and more than.

Speaker 1:

You are a pretty confident lady. What are you talking about? No, I know you for a while. You are very confident.

Speaker 2:

And confident is in the way, lady, lady, but in the way like if I have confidence with other, not in a ladyboy way okay.

Speaker 2:

If I have to do something men can do they have confidence to do that I cannot do. Sometimes I don't have any confidence to do same them, lady, also Some lady, they have their favorite thing to do, but I do not have confidence to be do same them. So I can say I don't. I don't say it because I don't want to say you, lady boy, have to do the same everyone, by the way.

Speaker 1:

Now, our listeners are shocked. Yeah, this is the first time they hear you're a ladyboy, yeah, so I'll hand, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So for thai I I did not say asian because I'm not saying about around them, but for thai, in my experience and talk with a thai boy, they are did not have confidence to to show, I mean it's like to open you think it's they?

Speaker 1:

I just asked a question because I want to understand exactly what you mean you think? You mean? You mean that because they are you are a lady boy they are more shy. Or you are not talking about the lady boy aspect, you are just talking about the ladyboy aspect. You're just talking about general dating aspect, general dating, okay like they did.

Speaker 2:

okay for for time. Boy, I'm have experience talk I'm with, I'm talking with they are did not have confidence to show how they are. They focus on like lovely in the time, just like, okay, pass the day, okay tomorrow. And we'll be the same every day.

Speaker 1:

Doesn't go up. So you mean like more focusing on having a good time rather than creating a future? Mm-hmm, okay.

Speaker 2:

They just want to have a good time in each day, but they doesn't make it in the future. It doesn't same, but for me maybe it's about age. Okay, I mean foreign, but I mean I'm, I mean they are older than me, okay so they're pretty young.

Speaker 1:

come on, you're pretty young. Come on, you're pretty young.

Speaker 2:

Okay, thanks.

Speaker 1:

No, you are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can say hi, yeah, you can say your age Okay. I'm just 20 years old, I'm just turned 20. Okay, then I meet some foreign guy older than over 10 years, over five years.

Speaker 1:

Even more, sometimes, I guess, over five years, even more sometimes, yeah, even more.

Speaker 2:

But right, they are thought they're always thinking about like in the future. They doesn't care, you're gonna have a good day in each day. But you're about partner life is glow up. Glow up and strong, more than just have a good time in a day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I understand that.

Speaker 2:

The way. Is it why the reason why I prefer Farang? I don't know if Thai guy have an opinion same Farang, but from my experience that's why I prefer farang more than Thai.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense because also in a, let's say, partner aspect, it's giving you more confidence and you know that it's someone that you can rely on. Right. You can stay together in the future, maybe have a family together, maybe have a house together. You don't know where it's going, but it's going to somewhere together, not just okay, we meet together, we drink, have fun, maybe have some sex and go home and go home, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So okay, farang, do that also, but not everyone.

Speaker 1:

Not everyone, but you have to remember we are in Pattaya, so in here the sex aspect is a bit more relevant to the. Yeah, I try to be very to speak good about that, but it's apparent that it's everywhere here.

Speaker 2:

So well, I don't think that is bad. Okay, yeah, so it's just normally in Paseo, Like the way I've been here for two years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, since you've been here for 18.

Speaker 2:

Two years, yeah right. First, I've been here for 18. And right, for two years experience. I cannot say what is true, true, what is it not true like? We're not talking about absolute truth but yeah, talking about experience, yeah, experience. So for me is it normal, okay if I, if I'm this, if I'm being with someone, just have a good time in the day and go home, sleep. That's it. It's all right Because it's normal.

Speaker 1:

That's not what you're looking for.

Speaker 2:

That's not what I'm looking for, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I totally get it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, that's why.

Speaker 1:

But how long do you think before you could really find yourself with someone that you like, Because you meet I? Guess at least a few people every day. I don't mean dating, I mean you just meet new people all the time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right.

Speaker 1:

How long do you think would it take? You to find someone that you can really have a good connection with and maybe create a future with him.

Speaker 2:

All right find someone that you can really have a good connection with and maybe create a future with him. All right, so for me, okay, I've been here for for a couple years and I know someone for over a year okay and is it that's why I had to take time long?

Speaker 2:

I would would be like longer, but I'm not being here. So in the plan it was about my plan, someone I'm talking with be with me for a little while, longer than a year, okay, okay, well, we have to learn each other, of course, in my opinion, is it?

Speaker 1:

In any opinion you cannot. I think it's not very good to jump straight into a committed relationship without knowing the other person cannot do that, so I have, in my opinion, a need to learn.

Speaker 2:

Each other would be like more than 5 years, maybe more than 4, more than 7 years, and get married.

Speaker 1:

Seven years is a long time. Seven years in my opinion is a bit long, but again, if that's the time you think it will get for you to actually know someone, then that's a reasonable time.

Speaker 2:

I could know the guy who can be my partner more than a couple years. Okay, I feel like it's like you know in school okay yeah, you know a friend, your friend. You know them just a years and they're the best friend oh, and that's the best friend. No, that's bullshit. That's bullshit the friend who is the best friends of your. You have to know them more than Over Three years, more Over than four years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and ups and downs, and sometimes we have some fights. Yeah, we are still friends, right yeah?

Speaker 2:

but we're still friends, that you can call them a best friend Because you know them for Over Five years, six years.

Speaker 1:

Ten years, and that's what you're looking in your partner, a best friend, right so this is other, I think, okay from from my parents aspirin.

Speaker 2:

They have been for long, like four of they know each other for three, four years, then they've been a boyfriend, girlfriend.

Speaker 2:

I mean like partner can say partner easy because they know they are. That's how they are adult, like you know, working, part, part of working, you know, okay, so they don't. They don't want a boyfriend, girlfriend crush like um popular in school. So they know for over five years, six years, and then they stay together. Learn each other how to stay together then, for for now they are, stay over 10 years. Yeah, they stay together like a friend.

Speaker 2:

They the best friends, the best friend can be everything for your life, because is it your partner, then, whatever has happened, partner still be your side. Yeah, so that doesn't mean like partner, just some part and go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, partner, just some part and go. Yeah, listen, the ideal thing we can do is finding a partner that will stay with them forever.

Speaker 2:

Right, right.

Speaker 1:

If we're monogamous. I'm not talking about other ways of living and being in a relationship, because some people have multiple partners. I'm not talking about that Talking monogamous. The thing is to to find someone that you can stay with them forever and still be good friends best friend if possible, but good friends is also, yeah, a good way, very, very, very good way because, um you know, I don't want to waste my time what do you mean?

Speaker 2:

I mean like I don't, I don't want to waste my time. What do you mean? I mean I don't want to get in a new. I always have new relationships. Yeah, I don't want to waste my time to get a new relationship many times and hurt. Okay, because that is about, because you, because not about like I say. That's why I prefer to not get in a new relationship, because I don't want to hurt a lot, but you don't think you might miss in on good relationship?

Speaker 1:

right? A chance, right? I'm just asking, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, because if it's like, okay, maybe I'm missing some good part if I'm close to not get in a new relationship okay but to get any relationship? But just learn, learn, learn with other people Like talking like a friend.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Maybe and focus only my life. First I focus on my job, focus on a better life for myself and make myself be to improve yourself, yeah, improve, but like okay, I'm, I'm have everything in my life already have house, have car, have business, have money.

Speaker 1:

And you're only 20.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that is about other. Maybe other 10 years, maybe other 10 years, maybe other 15 years.

Speaker 1:

No, that's impressive. Go on yeah.

Speaker 2:

And at that time I can say, if I can have a partner, at that time that would be nice to have, because I have everything already. Partner is just like the main, the the main of our life the main, I mean how to say that?

Speaker 1:

because I think a partner is something that is first of all essential if you don't want to live alone. Wait, but I don't think it's the main. I think the main thing is, as you said before, improving yourself first, making yourself better, and then you can find someone to be better with. You know, this is what I'm thinking. Maybe you see it from a different angle. I would love to hear.

Speaker 2:

So I think the partner is just like the things of life, like the step you know, because okay, well, you have everything, but how you can stay with someone when you have everything? Like someone? To be for a long time.

Speaker 1:

If I have everything, I cannot stay with someone. What do?

Speaker 2:

you mean? I mean like I have everything. But if you fall in love with someone like you need a partner to stay with for a long time, trust in each other. You know how you can stay if you have everything, how you can stay if you have everything. So for me, I think I want partner but support each other Like grow together. Grow together.

Speaker 1:

Like improving each other together.

Speaker 2:

Yes, right, okay so.

Speaker 1:

I understand. I think you try to say that the partner is a very good drive in order to be better. Right when you have a partner, you can do that together and grow together, as we said.

Speaker 2:

I need, yeah, the same way like go together. I don't want someone fast, someone still, you know.

Speaker 1:

Listen, I completely understand you and I tell you more than that, my listeners know because I spoke about it before. I can do stuff by myself, for example, this podcast but I'm not good at it. I prefer to do it with a partner. I'm very good working in duos, which means two people this is my style when I have a partner to work with on any project same this one, for example I'm doing much better, rather than just sitting alone in front of a microphone talking to my listeners that I hope will like the content that I make for them, right or the subject?

Speaker 1:

I see, I see but when I'm talking with someone else it's more natural for me because it's a real good conversation in my opinion.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's why I want, I'm looking for that that one, that someone that someone, someone can together with me but, please, but but had to wait for me because I need, I need to be good part.

Speaker 1:

You know like the base yeah, the base path of me then work together, be together okay, I want to ask you something that is completely unrelated to what we spoke about. Okay, okay, but it's something that I noticed in my stay now in here. I stay here for a while now, I will not say how long, but I stayed for a while and it took me time to do all those recordings and stuff that we will upload soon. But I want to ask you I I noticed that the thai ladies and, I guess, ladyboys that working in bars they're much they are going after, um, they much prefer asian men right now, like if you see, let's say koreans, japanese or chinese.

Speaker 1:

For them it's much better than france. Can you explain to me what is going on um?

Speaker 2:

okay, the way like from speak openly, come on. Okay. So the way like from Speak openly, come on. Okay. So the way like I am saying to you why I like northern guy.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean about as customers. As customers, all right. I see like, for example, if you sit inside, let's say soy semen, okay. I sit in a bar and I watch a groups of friends passing by okay some lady calls them someone's right, but if asian guys come, the ladies are just going crazy. They will do whatever they need in order to bring them to the bar. What's?

Speaker 2:

going on. I think that is about Okay, because for me in my mind, that isn't like for them type they like.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so maybe that.

Speaker 2:

Maybe that thing and other thing about money they spend better than the Falang's normally. Normally I have experience with the Japanese guy. For me it doesn't differ, it's same. It depends on you say how much you code. In my experience, but maybe it's about like how they treat ladies, how they, you know, like be soft. I think about like chai like always depends on lady.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, it's not the way like they, being boyfriend, girlfriend, I see like when Asian guy they are, they are have date with girls. So they always like depends on girls, depends on lady what she like to do, what she like to eat, where she like to go.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I understand.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so they are much more attentive for the lady, yeah, yeah, and some for for for lady boy. I thought it's about like lady boys not have not have many Asian guy like ladyboy really Asian guys don't like ladyboys for me, I see from, from, from you know, like I see from otter, when when I'm walking on the walking street with friend, I'm hang every friend that I see, like all the way, like walking past the bar, they're not interested about ladyboy.

Speaker 2:

You see more farangs with that yeah, farang would like to looking for ladyboy more than asian guy okay yeah, then I thought that's why ladyboy are crazy when they see asian because it's more on the specs, maybe also hmm maybe that is about what they like yeah that is easy. That is easy to not waiting. You know that it's not easy to waiting. Asian guy come to you because yours not tell them, so you try to get them.

Speaker 1:

I tell you, I asked because I heard something that was very interesting for me. So when Farrank guys come, they come normally for at least two, three, four weeks because they have to come from far away. So they bring money but they budget themselves. And the Asians when they come sometimes they come only for three, four days because it's very close. So they bring money, but they spend a lot. So, I heard, for example, that a group of, let's say, two or three Asians will easily spend 15,000 baht in a bar and the Farangs group of three Farangs maybe will spend two or four.

Speaker 1:

So because they are saying, okay, we are here for a short vacation, we are having fun fun, let's spend exactly exactly.

Speaker 2:

Is that true? Maybe that thing also okay because I'm, because I'm okay from my experience I'm with farang well before, for, okay, we'll stay for a couple months okay stay for a couple of months and had the word said. Like he said to me maybe I cannot give you the price you code.

Speaker 1:

I cannot give you the price you code to me because I had to stay for two months and I need to spend they are very budget, yeah, but even if you, you, you you're asking prices, whatever they say oh, that's my too much for, too much for me, okay, yeah, because yeah, they need to.

Speaker 2:

You know too much. It too much. It like few, is it? You know, for two months they plan already. But for some Asian okay, job living guy, japanese guy I'm before they just been here for a week. Yeah, maybe it's four days, five days and then in Pattaya just three days.

Speaker 1:

Don't mind spend Pattaya just three days, so they don't mind spending.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't mind spending. But they had to spend like one week in Thailand before two days in Pattaya and after that go somewhere else, then go home. So for two days, just two days. They spend like okay, it's an assemble, okay, not happy with me before. So for two days, just two days. They spend like okay, for is it assemble? Okay, not happy with me before.

Speaker 1:

Okay, don't worry.

Speaker 2:

For 3,000. But, he in Patria just two days.

Speaker 1:

Wait when you say 3,000,. We are talking about sex, like taking the lady to the room, or you're talking about sitting in a bar and spending what are we talking about?

Speaker 2:

No? No, it's about, like say, taking the room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Just one night, three dozen, okay, cool Then for next, next day, and maybe try to stay together like and try to stay with him again like text him how's going on? Can we stay together tonight? Say like no, I have plan Okay. Which is okay, yeah, that's just two days in Pattaya. After that nothing happened. But is it about different from Parang? They keep not a lot of money, but stay for long.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Stay for one month, maybe more, maybe more, yeah, maybe more, maybe, more, yeah. So I think that's why they like to bring with Asian, because, like you know, like easy ending, okay.

Speaker 1:

One thing also, yeah with foreign sometimes have a lot of drama.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so it would be like that's why they prefer Asian guy. To stay with big money Not many times, but, and easy, no drama, no trouble after that time. Yeah, if they like ladyboy, why not? They can spend for them For ladyboy. So they spend for ladyboy Like spend for them for for lady boy, right. So they spend for a lady boy like spend for lady.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, also, you think there is a price difference, difference between lady boys and ladies I think so really, because okay so I'm asking I I really have no clue about that I, I have experience from my friend.

Speaker 2:

I, okay, I can say, first time I come to work in Pattaya, I come with friend, it's a lady friend, okay, it's a girlfriend. Then lady, my friend, girls, I'm a lady boy, right, lady lady boy working together For okay, for sake, it's about like like short time.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

For ladyboys when say like 2,000 short time.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Other, like customers like say oh expensive.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

When ladies say 2,000 short time, oh easy, but the same guy, the same guy, same guy is like so let's say there is a guy that like ladyboys and ladies, he will think two thousand is too expensive for a ladyboy but, it's not too expensive for a lady you mean that? Yeah, because, because um me and my friend we had like a.

Speaker 1:

One guy for both of us. Yeah, one guy for both, okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay, this is not for fun, but you know, like I want to know this, you want to know also, yeah, yeah. So me and my friend, we you know how to say that Share the guy, Not share the guy. But how to say that Share the guy, Not share the guy. But how do you say that, Like you know, Conan, Conan, Conan. What is Conan it's in the anime in Japan. They had to figure it out, for something happened.

Speaker 1:

I'm not very strong on anime, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So it's about like you make a plan with your friend, okay, I make a plan with my friend, like he okay to spend for me? Okay, lady boy, yeah, and spend for you Two thousand. It's okay and okay. Talk with the guy Like same guy, one guy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're making a scheme. I understand now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay yeah.

Speaker 2:

So then, okay, say the same word. Two thousand short time is okay for ladyboy me, and let's see the answer. Yeah, let's see the answer.

Speaker 1:

Wait, I'm not trying to insult you, but she might be more attractive, how she might be more beautiful. This is also something that comes to, and when I mean beautiful, I mean more for his taste.

Speaker 1:

For example let's say you know, everyone has their own scale for other people. Let's say I go on the street I see some lady I can say, oh, she's a 5 out of 10, or she's an 8 out of ten, or she's a eight out of ten or ten out of ten, right. And for example, if I see you and and your friend, I can maybe think you are a nine out of ten and she's only six out of ten. So of course I would be, I would feel more comfortable paying you whatever you ask, because I want to be with you so much.

Speaker 2:

You understand, it might be an aspect also, but uh, yeah, I understand about that, but I but that time I I see is about like a, he like lady, lady boy. But then me, me and my friend, we doesn't look differently, you understand? Like a v, okay, how tall her small girls. She's shorter than you Shorter than me, but when we take pictures together we look similar, you know.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But different. Well, hair color whatever, but style same.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Okay, I can say, like it's not about yeah but you understand that every people have their own taste.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I see, and it might be that, come on, I heard this. I heard a story.

Speaker 1:

I heard a story. You will be shocked. Okay, I will not say the names because you know those people. But someone went okay, there is a guy that is living in Pattaya. He's working here for a long time, legally, by the way, and his friends came to visit him and his friend wanted to go to Soy 6.

Speaker 2:

So they went to Soy 6.

Speaker 1:

And they went to some bar or go-go, I really don't know. And the guy that just came to Thailand saw a girl that he really liked. And he asked her okay, how much? So she told him the bar fine is three thousand. Wow, and for me you have to pay another five thousand no problem without even thinking yeah.

Speaker 1:

and my friend that lives here a long time said what are you doing? He said, listen, I don't care, I came here for a short time. She's really my type. I feel we have a good connection. I want to pay that money, I want to be with that girl and that's acceptable. I understand that I would never pay that price in my opinion.

Speaker 2:

But, you know, but uh-huh, it's crazy, is it?

Speaker 1:

By the way, short time, not long time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, short time. For short time, he paid 8,000 baht. Yeah, that thing is true. Yeah, is it exactly that. But maybe it's what my experience happened and the thing like, okay, they think for a lady boy, for a lady, maybe different worlds. Different worlds and somehow I hear like for a lady boy for lady, maybe different worlds, different worlds, and somehow I hear like for lady boy, they're writing on for lady boy. I'm never give this prize a passive for me, and that's why I feel like why make it?

Speaker 1:

you know like make a stand.

Speaker 2:

Art to people, okay.

Speaker 1:

But then I can say the other side, maybe the ladyboy is selling girls short, yeah. I mean maybe ladyboys, maybe it's something in confidence, or maybe just because there is more scarcity. But maybe ladyboys say oh, I just need customer, I don't care, will go him with him for 1000. And then other people see and say oh okay, so 1000 between 1500 is the standard price, let's say, and then it's just becoming that. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Maybe ladyboys selling them themselves show sometimes and then make them thought like okay for a lady boy away, like a be like this, it's okay because what I usually yeah, why I will not pay it now yeah, why, why? Why I had to pay more like that? Yeah, because I'm I have this pride before yeah, yeah so I understand that's right, true, maybe?

Speaker 1:

we are all guessing here, but I want to say, because we are very close to the end of this episode, first of all I want to say thank you, Pim, it was very fun.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

I think we are going to do more episodes very soon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1:

Do you have something to say to our listeners?

Speaker 2:

for me it's the first podcast and thank you for listen. Listen. We content today, the content we made today. I can say I don't today, I can't say I don't know, I can't do podcast because I don't know I'm a talkative you're doing great and I'm sure our listeners love you thank you so much for your listen. Anything you like to share can put on our comments and I will reading and put like them yeah, of course, if I see something, I will, I will answer.

Speaker 1:

I thought yeah, that's, that's great, and I want to say that again. Sorry it took me a while to doing that again, but you know I told you already what went on, I know. So I hope, I really hope, that you will keep listening to us and I hope we can improve even better than last time and just thank you very much for listening to us. I really appreciate that. I don't ask anything more than that just thank you for listening.

Speaker 1:

Okay, thank you so much okay, guys, see you next time. See you next time, bye.